The Twenties Era was an active one
for the city. In 1927 Ardmore had a population of 20,000. There were four banks,
eight public schools, twenty-two churches, fifteen hotels, four railroads, three
newspapers, four fishing and hunting clubs, four cotton gins and a cotton press,
two golf clubs, a country club, two hospitals, a public farm market, three oil
refineries and a baseball team.
The Carter County Courthouse, which at the time of construction in 1911, had
been called the best courthouse in the Southwest adding a crowning feature to
the dome in 1928, a Seth Thomas Clock weighing 1 ton and costing in excess of
$2,000. The clock was installed by
George Virgil Hunter who was an electrician,
carpenter and inventor. In time the clock's hands refused to move and the bell
did not activate the chimes. Through the efforts of concerned citizens and after
years of silence the chimes rang out on October 5, 1996 and the illuminated
faces on four sides of the courthouse dome proclaimed to the north, south, east,
and west the correct time of day in Ardmore.
The Classic Revival structure with
its smooth stone construction and tall round columns, was topped with a metal
dome and cupola and above each doorway carved in granite are the words of famous
philosophers: The safety of the state is the highest law, Justinian;
The punishment can be remitted, the crime is everlasting, Ovid; The
foundations of justice are that no one should suffer wrong, Cicero; He
who does not prevent a crime when he can, encourages it, Seneca;
Prosperity gives every man his true honor, Tacitus.
In 1985 the Carter County Courthouse was placed on the National Registry of
-The above is from Territory Town, The Ardmore Story by Sally Gray,
Main Street scene at Fairfax,
Oklahoma in the 1920s.
Below is an old Protex padlock that
I've owned since my teens. I have only one key, but it works perfectly. Protex is still making locks today.
One of several bricks I sandblasted this
You can find current gas prices for a
particular Oklahoma town by entering the name or zip code in the GasBuddy search
Q. Is all of Oklahoma in the
Central Time Zone?
A. "Butch, the answer to your newsletter question about all of Oklahoma
being in the Central Time Zone. The correct answer is YES, however Kenton is
within the Central Time Zone but does observe Mountain Time due to their
proximity to other cities that are within the Mountain Time Zone. Also, many of
us within Oklahoma observe no time zone. We operate on Indian Time. We get there
when we get there and we leave when we leave. It seems to work out nice for me
and is certainly less stressful." -Gerald
Q. What Oklahoma county touches four other states?
A. (answer in next week's T&T)
From This and That
newsletter archives of October 26, 2002
Last Saturday night, Oct 21, 2002, around
9:30pm a 3.3 earthquake rumbled south of Atoka, Oklahoma. It was felt as far
away as Durant. I talked to a friend at the post office and asked if he felt it.
He said he and his wife were sitting in the living room and when the tremor came
through, he asked his wife, "what in the world is that"? He said they even found
items that fell off shelves in their house, the tremor was that strong.
"I read with interest your remark that the
trunk of a car in England is called a boot. Also the hood is called the bonnet."
"Butch, the party who remembered Mrs.
Bishop at the high school was right. Muncie Reese WAS the History teacher there
for about a zillion years. When I was in high school in the mid fifties, we used
to have secret desire day and Muncie always came as a bride!!! I remember
hearing about Mrs. Bishop although she was gone by the time I got to AHS. Muncie
always liked the boys better than the girls. The boys could get away with
anything but the girls got "the look". She was so short she sat on a stool. She
was very intimidating. She got her hair done at the same beauty shop as my mom
and whenever she was there, I stayed outside!!!"
"Ms Ringer was a very tough teacher I
remember one time she got into a little trouble. There was two boys in my 5th
grade class at Washington School it must have been in 1961 or 1962 can't
remember but any way. One of these boys was at the pencil sharpener and he stab
the other boy in the arm with a pencil the boy began to cry and Ms Ringer came
over and took a pencil from the boy that had stab the other boy and stab him
several times in the arm I remember it drew blood and the boy cried and his
parents were called. Ms Ringer was called to Mr. Connley's office but she was
back in class the next day if I remember correctly. I had to stay I after school
almost everyday in Ms Ringer's class for some infraction and she would always
give us candy when it was time to go home saying we should get a paddling but
she would give us candy instead. I also remember her making us name the pictures
on the wall Blue Boy , The Gleaners and so on, she was also a good artist I
leaned a lot from Ms Ringer. Abraham Lincoln was her favorite person in the
world I guess One day she had us write a poem as home work, well like always
"Old Luther" didn't do it . So she got me up in front of the class and said to
make up a poem, well I did. "Three cheers for Old Abe Lincoln he is in his grave
dead and stinken." Well another paddling and after school again for "Old Luther"
When it was time to go home Ms Ringer said she had not paddled me because it was
a bad poem it was the subject and the content of the poem that got me into
trouble. Ms Ringer would read us poetry, she would always read it the way the
poet would have read it. Always tiring to teach us of the wonderful things in
life. To me she was a great teacher there should be more like her today. Mr.
Stamper was also one of my teachers he had what he called a 70 list anyone
making below 70 got a swat with his paddle well Old Luther never made more that
30 or 35 so I got the paddle almost daily , One time Mr. Stamper said Luther
There are 14 words on this spelling test if you spell 7 right I well give you a
tootsie roll pop sucker. Well in my way of thinking a tootsie roll pop suckers
sold for 2 cents and a pop bottle sold for 2 cents so I told Mr. Stamper I could
sell a pop bottle and get me one of them tootsie roll pop suckers at Basil
Moran's store, well here we go again Old Luther got paddled before and after the
spelling test if I remember correctly. Ms Ringer and Mr. Stamper were my
favorite teacher at Washington School I also remember Mr. Biles, Ms Whitmore, Ms
Zomwalt, Ms Sherman, and Ms Hudgens. We move around a lot when I was in school I
went to Washington, Jefferson, Franklin, and Dickson as well as school in
Duncan, Fredrick, Walters, and in Arkansas, Indiana, We work alot pulling cotton
in Western Okla. around Altas, Fredrick, and Walters we would be gone from
Ardmore while the season for cotton was on and come back when it was over we
went to Indiana an picked tomatoes and to Arkansas and picked peaches never made
it to CA we was to broke to go that far I guess. Washington School was my
favorite of all the many schools I went to. It made me sad when it burned down a
lot of childhood memories of dear friends long ago Winston "Cheesy" Jefferson,
Kenny Tate, Linda Goodin, Peggy Mize, the Dickson boys, Donna lllnisky, Tommy
Little, Lloyd Lee Wickwire, Wanda Lloyd, Edward Marr, Charles Carter, Robert
Miller, William Lee, Charles Lee, George Walker, just to name a few."
"While going thru some of the pictures at
your website, I discovered the pictures of the old Milo Baptist Church which
were taken right before and after it was burned. What makes me feel so old
(AMONG OTHER THINGS!) is that I remember when they tore down part of the old
Milo school/church building, dragged the smaller rooms about 40 yards to the
west, and built onto them to create the "new" church, which is now the "old" one
that burned. I believe it was finished about 1953. Since then I have attended
more funerals in that building than I can count, due to the fact that both sides
of my family, back to three sets of great-grandparents, lived and are buried
there. On the happier side, I am attaching a couple of pictures of the now-NEW
church, taken back in May---one shot of the outside and one of the unfinished
sanctuary. I hear that it is now virtually complete and in at least partial use,
and that the dedication day is set for in November---the third, I believe. I
haven't seen it since May, but I am sure it must look great by now. Maybe some
of your readers live there and can fill us in on the dedication plans." -Keith
Ward, Oklahoma City.
"We have some ties to Oklahoma. My father,
Carl M. Goen graduated from Wilson High School in 1926. He was born in Purcell
in 1907. My grandfather, Jesse Dillard Goen was married to Ora Lee Smith in
Purcell about 1906. Her second husband was C.D.White and he had a tin shop in
Wilson. In the 1900 census, my great grandfather, Joseph Franklin Goen and his
family were living near Chickasaw. Dallas White Smith, father of Ora Lee is
buried at Wilson Cemetery. His first wife was Ollie Mooney and she is buried at
Free-O cemetery north of Healdton. Llena Goen, my aunt, was married to Everett
Burris. She as born 1910 in Hewitt which is now part of Wilson. Am interested in
contacting anyone who might have info on these surnames." -Paul Lynn Goen,
"A number of years ago I read a book
published (in 1935) by Motorbooks International about service station
memorabilia, particularly logos on signs and pumps, etc., and it included a
directory of oil companies that existed at one time, often with a description of
what happened to them. Selected items in the directory were pretty interesting,
telling how companies merged or changed their names, etc."
"Many newspapers with today's
technologies have thrown out all the old issues on paper because of the space
required to store them and the impracticality of scanning all the old issues.
The Oklahoma Historical Society went through a great project a number of years
ago and microfilmed the archives of every newspaper in the state they could
find. (The newspapers cooperated on this, of course.) For many, perhaps most,
newspapers those are the only archives from pre-computer days. You have to
reserve time on their microfilm readers since this is a very popular source and
very difficult to search as they are merely arranged by the date of the paper.
But you'll find some real gems in there."
Some mail from this week's MAILBAG.....
At the link below are 10 more scans of old photographs this week. -Robert Hensley
"Santa Fe locomotive 1108 in Ardmore:
Painting facility going up around SF 1108 where it sits at the Hardy-Murphy
Coloseum in Ardmore. After painting it will be transported to the new RR park
area beside the SF/RI depot at Main Street, Ardmore." -C. Dwane Stevens
Thanks for the reply and I am glad to see the train will be
painted and moved to its new location. I always thought it would look better
near the Santa Fe Depot when the passengers on Amtrack will get off and see it
in the new park. I also heard that Amtrack will stop running sometime next year
due to the state budget crunch. The senate and house voted to stop funding.
Mennonite Weekly Review obituary:
1944 Jan 6 p. 1
Birth date: 1906 Nov 26
text of obituary:
Tragedy at Ringwood, Okla., Takes Lives of Six in One Family
ORLEY SCHROEDER AND FIVE CHILDREN DIED AS RESULT OF EXPLOSION AND FIRE
Friends in Oklahoma and Kansas were shocked to hear of the tragic death of Orley
Schroeder and five children at Ringwood, Okla., who shortly before Christmas
lost their lives in or following an explosion and fire which completely
destroyed their farm home near Ringwood. The accident happened Saturday night,
A large crowd of grief-stricken relatives and friends attended the funeral for
the six victims held at the Holdeman church southeast of Fairview, Wednesday
afternoon, Dec. 22.
The Enid (Okla.) Morning News of Dec. 21 gives the following details of the
"Mrs. Schroeder, only surviving member of the family of seven, was suffering
considerably last night but it was believed she would recover. She received
superficial facial burns and severe burns on hands and feet. She remains at the
local hospital where she was taken after the fire and where three of the
children, Toby, 13, Rowena, 11, and John, 4, died Sunday.
"Mr. Schroeder and two children, Susie Jane, 9, and Geneva, 11 months, perished
in the fire which was caused by gasoline which exploded as Mr. Schroeder was
filling a gasoline cook stove in the same room in which a kerosene lamp was
"The Schroeder family had resided at Ringwood for about six years having come to
Oklahoma from Lehigh, Kans.
"Survivors include Mr. Schroeder's mother, Mrs. Susie Schroeder of near Longdale;
his two sisters, Mrs. Edna Buller and Mrs. Iva Eicher, both of Foley, Ala.; and
brother, Edward Schroeder of California. Also surviving are Mrs. Schroeder's
mother, Mrs. Henry Boehs, and brother, Dave Boehs, both of Ringwood; and a
sister Mrs. Ervina Ratzlaff, Lehigh, Kans."
"Hi Butch. I think the Horseshoe Curve you refer to is what we
used to call Hairpin Curve and it was a white-knuckle trip for my mother to
drive every time. As I recall, there was a semi trailer rolled over inside the
curve all the time I was in high school. Many, many years later I had occasion
to drive through it and admit it was teeth-gritting for me just with all the
Butch, there is at least one more brand of rattlesnake that
you didn't mention last week, and that is a velvet-tailed rattler. We have them
in NE Oklahoma.
"Let us consider the reasons of
the case. For nothing is law that is not reason."
Sir John Powell, English judge (1633-1696)
See everyone next
Butch and Jill Bridges
PO Box 11
Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402