This and That Newsletter
Vol 13 Issue 641 Circulation 5,000 May 7, 2009
PO Box 2
Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402
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This week I received an interesting email and update on a lady we talked about in September 2003 by the name of Ethel Hindman, the wild woman of the Arbuckle Mountains, and the reason for the name Wild Woman Cave near Turner Falls. Ethel's niece lives in Montana and stumbled across what little info we had on Ethel Hindman and emailed me to share more information on Ethel and the rest of the story:
"In your story about Ethel Hindman, you said no one knew what happened to her. I know; I’m her niece. She lived well into her nineties and was very active for most of that time. Most of her adult life was lived in Pawhuska, OK, as Ethel Buck. She was widowed at a young age, but raised a son, Jack Buck, by herself. She also helped to raise four of her younger sisters.
Aunt Ethel did many other dare devil stunts. She dived off the top of Turner Falls and another falls near Ardmore. She dived off the wing of an airplane into the Ardmore reservoir—twice. A Hollywood producer asked her to come to California to do the stunt for the movies, but she refused. Another woman took her place (and name) and was killed in the dive. That caused a lot of confusion in Ardmore when Ethel visited there later on. People thought she’d risen from the dead.
Her brother produced rodeos, and she often rode broncs. At one rodeo, the story goes, the cowboys were complaining about the viciousness of a particular bull. Lee told them that the bull was so tame that even his sister could ride it. He then rigged the draw so that she’d get that bull, and he bet on her with the other cowboys. Ethel rode the bull, but broke her jaw and lost most of her front teeth in the process. She almost killed her brother when she found out what he’d done.
When she was seventy, she camped at Turner Falls with many of her nieces and nephews. She led us on a long hike to the old home place, worrying the whole time about whether she was tiring us out. That afternoon, we swam in the Blue Hole, downstream on Honey Creek from Turner Falls. While there, she did a number of trick dives from the diving board. Needless to say, everyone in the pool stopped what they were doing to watch her.
Aunt Ethel was a wonderful woman, and we all adored her. I have a newspaper article about her, written by Mac McGalliard, framed and hung on my office wall." -Belva Jones, Frenchtown, Montana
A Reader sent in an email this week to say he'd seen Bonnie and Clyde's bullet riddled car at a casino in Nevada. I did a search at http://images.google.com for the hotel and found a unbelievable history lesson when I clicked on the pic of Bonnie and Clyde's car. You will find his email and a link to the many many photos in the mailbag below.
Stories needed for Oklahoma Outlaw, Lawmen History Association - OKOLHA
One of the purposes of the Oklahoma Outlaw, Lawmen History Association is to provide a forum for originally researched stories by our members and others. Submissions can be about people, places or events, be they obscure or a fresh, new angle on more familiar subjects.
The preferred method of submitting a story for publication is via e-mail to the editor: email@example.com
Submissions must be accurate and be highly readable! The content must be referenced. This can be accomplished through endnotes, or by means of a bibliography, selected bibliography or short list of sources.
Ideally, the e-mail will contain an attachment with your story as a WORD document. It should be written in 11 or 12 point “Times Roman” or “New Times Roman” font.
If your submission is on paper, make sure it is cleanly typed so that the editor’s scanning program can “translate” the words into digital text. Submissions can also be on 3 inch floppy disc or CD. It should be mailed to:
New information in story content is highly encouraged. Likewise, new perspectives on familiar events are welcome, but please, DO NOT submit rehashed stories.
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OKOLHA will pay $25 for 1500 to 2000 word stories upon publication.
November 16, 1917 The Daily Ardmoreite - RESUME STREET CAR SERVICE TOMORROW
The Ardmore Street Car Railway service will be resumed tomorrow morning. Cars will leave the barns at 6:15 and 6:45 and every thirty minutes thereafter until 10:15pm. Cars will leave downtown at 6:30 and 7:30am and every thirty minutes thereafter, the last car leaving at 11pm.
The cars from the barns to Electric Park, Country Club, and Bloomfield Academy will eave at 7:15, 7:45 and 11:45am.
November 16, 1917 The Daily Ardmoreite - KRESS STORE OPENING TODAY
The informal opening of Kress' store, 119-121 West Main street, this afternoon bore all the evidence of a social affair. Blooming plants on the counters and shelves added to the attractiveness of the spacious display rooms. Barnard's orchestra gave a musical program as the guests passed up and down the aisles inspecting the array of choice goods, both useful and ornamental. Boxes of chocolate bonbons were given as favors.
November 24, 1917 The Daily Ardmoreite - ARDMOREITE IS MOVING TO ITS NEW BUILDING
Today, tomorrow and for a few days next week the office of the Daily Ardmoreite will be in transit, the work of moving the equipment from the ground floor of the Elks building (North Washington and West Broadway) to the new building for The Ardmoreite at the corner of East Broadway and North Mill Street, just one block east of the old location, being under way.
The subscribers are asked to be patient during this transition as the paper may be late. During the past fortnight the paper has often been late. Next week the work of installing the large 24 Hoe perfecting press will begin.
December 5, 1917 The Daily Ardmoreite - POSSUM HUNT
An old fashioned possum hunt was participated in last night by employees of the Hamilton Shoe Company, their wives and sweethearts. The part assembled at the William Prater home on West Main street, where with a pack hounds the chase began, continuing for three miles.
Possums soon took refuge in persimmon trees and were captured. When this sport was concluded a bonfire was built and a real camp fire supper prepared and enjoyed. The hunters were Mr and Mrs Prater, Mr and MRs Estes, Mr and Mrs Bullock, Mr and Mrs Cathey, Misses Everett Tucker, Giddens, Messrs, Lanford, Hamiton, Sprekelmeyer, P. Watkins, and J. Watkins.
The past few days we've got several inches of rain, so maybe the drought is over, for a while. Most of the farm ponds are full, or nearly full.
Used my Briggs and Stratton Gasohol Tester for the first time this week.............
Ten cheapest places to buy gas in the Ardmore area......
Oklahoma History Boards!
Q. What is Oklahoma's record high temp?
A. Oklahoma's record high temperature is 120 degrees, observed six times, the last of which occurred at the Tipton Mesonet site on June 27, 1994.
Q. What did Oklahoma's largest earthquake register on the Richter Scale?
A. (answer in next week's T&T)
Some mail from this week's MAILBAG....."Butch, My brother just let me know that Google Earth has greatly improved the clarity of the eastern half of Carter County and other areas. I gave it a quick look and it is so much better." -Chuck
"Butch, Eureka!! Dwane Stevens' email and pictures in last week's T&T about his trip to Mountain Lake revealed the dam construction that my grandfather, Ben E. Lindsly supervised back in the early 1920's. I knew that he had built a dam near Ardmore, but Dwane's pictures of the nameplates at the site confirmed that this was the one. Many thanks to Dwane and his wife, Terri, for making the trip and posting the photos on T&T. I have a page from an old (probably 1921) Ardmoreite that details the plans for the dam and cites my grandfather. The name of the newspaper and the date of the article are missing, and the paper is very fragile at this point. The article was written by William Krohn and the headline says: "Ardmore Undertakes Greatest Engineering Feat of Its Kind Ever Started in Oklahoma :: Tremendous Storage Capacity of New Reservoir Will Prevent Drought Effects in Territory Contiguous to New Lake -- Two Hundred Acres of Clear Pure Water". I am attaching a picture of my grandfather (on the right) with some official (maybe the Ardmore mayor) inspecting the dam site. I would love to know the identity of the other man at the dam if one of your Readers could provide it. I'm also including one of Dwane's pictures of the dam as it now looks for comparison." -Dick Lindsly, Frisco, Texas
"A man who works in produce told him the neatest, easiest, and best way to fix corn we have ever found. You take an ear of corn with the shucks and silks still on it. Cut the stem end off just a little, roll that ear of corn up tight in a plastic sack from the grocery store - WalMart, Homeland, etc. and place it in the microwave for 3 minutes (on High), take it out and let it set for about 3-5 minutes or until it is cool enough to shuck. It is so neat because the shuck AND the silks will come off the cob just as clean as can be. Cut the ends off, put your butter and salt on it and it has a wonderful fresh taste. When Herb told me about it, I said it wouldn't be cooked! Well- WRONG! Try it, you will like it. I don't know if you can cook more than one at a time, he said cook them one at a time, and that is what we do."
"I too, would like to see a picture of the swinging bridge that crossed the Washita River Bridge in Greasy Bend, the bridge washed away in 1950, we had to either drive thru Baum or across the Daube Rock Prairie Ranch to get to Mannsville, if anyone anywhere has a picture that they will share I would appreciate it." -Reba
"The mystery bird is a painted bunting. They are very common in Texas. In fact, I probably have a pair on my bird feeder as I type. The female is just as plain as the male is spectacular. The painted bunting male is identified in my bird book as being the most gaudily colored American bird. Male: A little chirping-Sparrow-sized finch a patchwork of bright red, green, and indigo. Female: Very plain greenish above, paling to lemon-green below; It is found across the southern U.S. to NE Mexico. Winters Mexico and Florida to Panama. Summers Texas (April-October) throughout much of the state." -Roberta Abbe, Texas Hill Country
"Butch I had the opportunity to see the old ford with all the bullet holes in it at the county line of California and Nevada at Whiskey Pete's Casino. They ventilated that old Ford."
"Butch, The bird Anthony saw is a "Male Painted Bunting. It is Beautiful but shy. Painted Buntings can be hard to see in Southern Thickets. Males often sing from perches well hidden among foliage in low trees. Adult male unmistakable. Female plain green, with no markings. Other small greenish birds have a thinner bills, or show marks such as wing-bars. Juveniles are much greener than adult females at first. They range mostly in Texas, Oklahoma, (Not the panhandle though), Louisiana, Arkansas, and the western half of Missouri. A few are found on the southeastern coast of the the US." Hope this helps. Data from KAUFMAN field Guide to Birds of North America $18.95 at most book stores. It is a great book with over 2,000 pictures of birds and where they are located, migration pattern, etc." -Claude in Juneau, Alaska http://www.oklahomahistory.net/ttphotos9a/MysteryBird09a.jpg
"You are right Most dangerous Recipe! We made it last evening. We used self rising flour, chocolate mint chips, delicious, served three. In five minutes!"
"Butch, You did it this time. That 5 minute Chocolate Cake Mug worked perfectly. Here's a few thoughts: Get a pack of White Chocolate Cocoa mix. Mix it real thick then drizzle it over the top (I did). This recipe is great because using these small amounts of ingredients, I might be able to make them for a little while and my wife wouldn't miss what I used. The best part is by only using a tablespoon and a cup, you can make it, eat it and clean it up in 10 minutes with out leaving any trace you did it. It is so simple any guy can do it.
Sooner or later you "WILL" get caught, so be prepared to share it with your wife. Messing around in the kitchen is sorta like when my B-in-Law takes some of my tools from the garage. I know he did it long before he tells me he took them. I'll bet Jill has the same skills as my wife in this regard. Good job Butch and thanks in advance for the extra pounds you have just given me. LOL" -John in Illinois
"Butch, Just a question concerning the deaths of three children in a house fire on Halloween night in the mid-1950s or late 1950s. The fire occurred about 1.5 miles west of Dickson on what was then US 70 highway. The house stood on the north side of the highway. I think a brick house is there now. Anyone remember the incident and the names of the children."
"Tom Elmore (former Ardmoreite) and the OKC Channel 25 report on STB ruling, OKC Union Station & Cross town relocation."
Oklahoma law Enforcement Memorial, Inc.
PO Box 10776
Oklahoma City, OK 73140-1776
For Immediate Release
Oklahoma’s Fallen Officers to be Honored
On Friday morning May 8th Oklahomans will take time out to honor the service and sacrifices of their law enforcement officers. The Forty-first Annual Oklahoma Law Enforcement Officers’ Memorial Service will be conducted at 10 A.M. at the Oklahoma Law Enforcement Memorial located on the west grounds of the Oklahoma Department of Public Safety Headquarters, 3600 N. M. L. King Avenue in Oklahoma City. Key note speaker will be Lt. Governor Jari Askins. Six fallen officers’ names will be dedicated during the service. The new additions to the state’s memorial are:
Deputy U. S. Marshal Herbert M. Goddard shot and killed August 13, 1900, near Goodwater in McCurtain County;
Madill City Marshal J. T. Pratt shot and killed November 6, 1910;
Bristow Deputy Constable G. Ralph Ellis shot and killed November 7, 1915;
Altus Police Officer John H. Hill shot and killed September 7, 1934;
Kiefer Police Sergeant Leslie E. Wilmott died in a traffic accident May 29, 2008;
Oklahoma City Police Sergeant Robert C. Douglas died September 28, 2008, from injuries sustained in a motorcycle accident July 26, 2003.These six officer’s names as well as those of eight other officers who died in the line of duty during the last five years will be read during the “Roll Call of Heroes” portion of the memorial service. As the officer’s names are read members of their families or a representative escorted by an officer will place a rose on the memorial wreath. With the addition of the six new names there are 646 officer’s names engraved on the memorial. For more information see the memorial’s web site at http://www.oklemem.com
For more information contact Memorial Chairman, Dennis Lippe, by pager at (405) 530-1969.
"Can anyone identify this species of Hawk. It was found starving to death at Lake Ardmore. A good Samaritan took it to a special place that takes care of animals in Norman and it is on the road to recovery now."
"I'd like to share some pictures that are along the same interest we share here. There are two albums from Paul Phillips in Dallas. His family lived at a place called Pure Camp in the 1950's. This was a small residential area in far eastern Marshall County in the middle of the Cumberland oil field. In 1957 a toronado came through that demolished the camp. It all looked pretty neat pre tornado. Two died in the disaster, one was my Great Aunt's Mother. There are some neat pictures of older oil field related equipment shown." -Jayson Pruitt
Singer, Songwriter Les Gilliam Celebrates 10 Years as Oklahoma BalladeerSinger, songwriter Les Gilliam is celebrating 10 years as the official Oklahoma Balladeer, and the Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame is throwing him a party to celebrate. The Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame will celebrate Gilliam’s success and contribution to Oklahoma music with a Dancin’ in the District party May 9 at 7:30 p.m. The public is invited and tickets are only $5 for an evening with Gilliam and his Silver Lake Band. Dancin’ in the District will be held at the Oklahoma Music Hall of Fame Depot, located in the heart of the Museum District in Muskogee at 401 S. 3rd Street. Call 918-687-0800 for reservations to Dancin’ in the District.
"The annual Confederate Memorial Day Service at Rosehill cemetery in Ardmore will be Monday the 25th at 9:30am. The time was changed to avoid the usual extreme heat of mid afternoon. This will allow those wishing to attend the VA service at the Veteran's Center on South Commerce to do so which begins at 11:00am. Our service will last approximately 1 hour. For more information: firstname.lastname@example.org
Centennial of “Four Men Hanging” Noted in Ada, Oklahoma
By Chuck Parsons
Every western buff is familiar with James Brown “Jim” Miller, the most deadly hired assassin of the Old West. In his last moments of life he claimed, or confessed, to having killed fifty-one men. That may have been true, or maybe it was no more than a final, boastful statement. He and three other associates were forcibly taken from the Ada, Oklahoma jail during the early morning hours of April 19, 1909, taken to an old livery stable and strung up by the neck until dead. The mob which did the deed was convinced they would escape justice by the tricks, or talent, of a sharp lawyer. They were determined Miller would pay the price for the murder of their friend, A.A. Bobbitt. Miller and his three friends who were associated with the deed – two who put up the money, Jesse West and Joe Allen, and one who “fingered” the victim, B.B. Burrell, -- paid the price with their lives. It was “Lynch Law” justice. Illegal, but quick and effective
The four men hanging were photographed by professional photographer Noah B. Stall. His picture has been reproduced in many forms, black and white photographs; colored versions; engraving on stone; even a wooden mockup. Some day perhaps there will be a ballet about it, to go along with Aaron Copeland’s ballet, Billy the Kid, based on the life of the outlaw Billy the Kid. That image is among the most famous photographs dealing with the history of the Old West.
A century later, on April 19, 2009, the hanging was commemorated in Ada by members of the Oklahoma Outlaws, Lawmen History Association (http://www.okolha.net) , organized by OKOLHA President Herman Kirkwood. The program began with an opening prayer by a local pastor. Then Bill C. James, member of the OKOLHA Board of Directors, gave thanks to all those individuals who had assisted with organizing the program, and especially to those who had assisted him in getting the site of the hanging marked for future generations. The large black China marble marker was erected in 1997, only a few feet from where the original livery stable stood in 1909.
Chuck Parsons followed with remarks about his research into the life and career and especially the final days of J.B. Miller, the events leading up to the assassination of his last victim, and how the mob worked to gain access to the prisoners, and how they lynched them.
Miller was not only a “killer for hire” although that is what made him notorious. He was involved in a few other killings which were of a personal nature, the result of arguments, such as his personal feud with Reeves County Sheriff G.A. “Bud” Frazer, and the killing of his own brother-in-law some years before. Miller apparently considered killing men as a business, much as robbing a bank or train as did the James and Younger Gangs. Miller may have been involved in the murder of famed lawman Pat Garrett, the slayer of Billy the Kid, although this remains controversial even to this day.
During the previous day many interested parties attended the book signing in Ada. Several descendants of the men lynched were present, and enjoyed visiting with others who held the same connecting link to their past – their antecedents were related to the four men in the famous photograph. Following the Sunday morning program, which attracted over a hundred people, some visited several cemeteries in the area where the graves of early day lawmen or outlaws are buried.
OKOLHA is a national organization organized in 2003 for people who have a deep interest in the history of Oklahoma and preserving that history. The organization publishes a Journal which appears four times annually. Membership is available to all with dues $25.00 annually. For further information consult the website or contact President Herman Kirkwood at email@example.com; or Treasurer Larry Walls at firstname.lastname@example.org, or Chuck Parsons at email@example.com
"While we're sorting out the mystery birds, let me offer up a few more for the birders out there. These have all been at my (SE Lone Grove) feeders this week. I've got a pretty good idea of the first one. The second*, less so and the third may be a hybrid. It'd be interesting to hear what others think. *greenish color is true. There are also a couple pair of the Baltimores visiting for comparisons." -Garth in Lone Grove
Here's a little color from this morning for an otherwise dreary Saturday. Baltimore Orioles.
A little different color than the first set. This is the first year that I've seen this/these here. Indigo Bunting.
Ok, lets go a little brighter again. Painted Buntings. Male is the rainbow and female is the green.
One more bit of blue from yesterday. Bluebird.
And here's the keeping-the-songbirds-on-their-toes Sharpie. The Broad Winged and Red Tails seemed to have moved on. Sharp Shinned Hawk.
"We had the prettiest visitor tonight at our feeders." -Doug
"Butch, if you are up around Velma on Highway 7 (west of Ratliff City) stop in the Chuck Wagon Restaurant and get one of these monsters for $5 bucks. Tender and delicious this thing was an inch thick." -Doug
"Butch, I love you newsletter so much! I grew up around Ardmore because of family members living there. I love reading the stories in your newsletter! I was told a long time ago by my father that there is a horse buried under the train at the Hardy Murphy Coliseum. Do you or any of your Readers know anything about this? I now live in Duncan with my husband and pets. I remember the lazy daisy meat pies that Millers Dairy Freeze had back in the 1960s. Thank you!" -Brenda
We struggle with the complexities and avoid the simplicities. -Norman Vincent Peale
See everyone next week!
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