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Vol 14  Issue 699      Circulation 5,000       June 17, 2010

PO Box 11

Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402

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Movie Poster Service in Canton, Oklahoma (90 miles NW of Oklahoma City) is the world's largest collection of American movie posters, lobby cards and other movie memorabilia. They began serving theaters in 1926 and are now the oldest company dealing in movie memorabilia.

Dennis and June DeVaney from South Carolina (Dennis is an Okie) were in Ardmore this week doing genealogy research. They were trying to find any info on Dennis' great grandfather, Thomas Henry Jackson 09/23/1873 to 01/19/1918. From Ardmore they were going to Wilson since they thought he may be buried in that area, and to Duncan, trying to find his burial spot. If anyone has databases to search, maybe you can help Dennis and June fill in some blanks in their family genealogy. Their email is

Just a reminder the Mac McGalliard archives are still being digitized by the Ardmore Public Library.  I can get lost in Mac's archives for hours, one search leads to another.

If your not a subscriber to the free daily ezine OK Moments, your missing a lot of history. Today it was about the railroad war of 1894 at Enid and Pond Creek, Oklahoma.

I went out to our wood pallet shed this week to get a extra water hose, and when I looked inside the plastic container Jill had put the hoses in, there were 6 little bird eggs.  A house sparrow has started a nest.

Every since we put in our water well 2 years ago I have been searching for a sprinkler that works with low water pressure.  Our well pump is factory set to cut-on at 30 lbs pressure and cut-off at 50 pounds pressure. At 50 pounds pressure all the sprinklers I've tried work fine, but when the water pressure from the well pump drops down to 30, most times the sprinkler will stop rotating, then start back up, sometimes, when the pump kicks back in and brings the pressure back up.  Last week I think I found the ideal sprinkler.  A Low Pressure Rain Bird Model P2-R at the Ace store here in Lone Grove.  Well, actually they didn't have any on the shelf, but I bought a couple from the Ace Hardware website, and there was free delivery right to the Ace store (D&H Hardware) in Lone Grove, arriving about 7 days later.

If you travel around a lot with a wireless laptop, I found a freeware program that is a must have. This little program is called Easy Wifi Radar and will automatically find any OPEN wireless access point router, and log you in to the internet. No configuration, no searching for APs, no hassles. Just double click on the Icon and if there is a OPEN (no password needed) internet router nearby, you will be checking email or surfing the internet in seconds (does not work with Microsoft Vista OS).

Speaking of the water well, our well water is still about 50 feet from the surface, and the hole 185 feet down.  Plenty of water for outside watering (we have SOWC in the house).  But 2 weeks ago the not-quite-2-year old water pump burned out.  I found a new Deep Well pump with a 3 year warranty manufactured by LittleGIANT and they are headquartered in Oklahoma City.  All others I looked at only had a 1 year warranty including the pump we bought at Lowes two years ago.  Anyway, we will see how long this LittleGIANT pump lasts.

Q.   Where is Oklahoma's most famous mound builder's village located?
A.    Spiro, Oklahoma next to the Arkansas border

Q.   The Green Corn Rebellion was a protest against what war?
A.   (answer in next week's issue)

Gas prices today in the Ardmore area......

Some mail from this week's MAILBAG.....

"Hello Butch,  I just wanted every one of your readers of T&T to know that my aunt, Annie Conway, will be celebrating her 99th birthday on June 22, 2010. She still lives on the old home place that she and Uncle Bernie Conway built in 1938. The house sits on a bluff overlooking the Washita River, located at the Southeast corner of the Ardmore Air Park at Gene Autry, Oklahoma. Happy birthday Aunt Annie."  -Joe Dale Black
"Butch, Just found  I grew up in Whitebead, Oklahoma, near Pauls Valley. Back in the late 60’s and early 70’s my friends and I explored most of the caves in the Turner Falls area including Wild Woman, Bitter Enders, Wagon Wheel, Crystal, Raccoon and others that do not have names. We mapped Wild Woman and Bitter-Enders. We also conducted an ecological study of Bitter-Enders including water analysis and atmospheric gas analysis. The hardest part of the study was hauling all of the equipment to the site. We were also the first and maybe the only group to reach the bottom of “The Bottomless Pit” in Raccoon Cave back in 1970. Boy Scouts camping at Doc’s Blue Hole, near Raccoon cave, had attempted the vertical drop since the mid-30’s including my late uncle. These stories over time caused the bottomless pit to get deeper and deeper, plus the fact that the walls and ledges of the pit are covered with mud, when you drop in a stone in an attempt to approximate the depth, the stones hit the soft mud and you never hear them hit. For the record the Bottomless Pit is 172 feet deep.

On one expedition we spent two days underground exploring Wild Woman to develop the maps. Other large caves are located near Dougherty, OK. Including one that had an entrance large enough to ride horseback into the cave for several hundred feet. This cave is so complex that some boy scouts from a nearby camp got lost in the cave. An expedition took several days to find the scouts alive and well. The original entrance was dynamited back in the 1940’s to prevent further possible accidents.

Some further information regarding Wild Woman: Ethel Hindman was in Oklahoma in the 1930’s and performed a stunt, jumping from the wings of a bi-plane into the lake, during the dedication of Wiley Post Lake near Maysville. Mr. Patterson, the original owner of the ranch, was at the dedication and hired Ethel to come down to his ranch. The original entrance was a sink hole filled with water. Mr. Patterson knew that the entrance to the cave was under the water and Ethel dove into the water and came up inside the cave. She was hired to explore the cave to find a source of water. The ranchers used the information to drill into the cave from the surface to supply water to their cattle during the drought, “Dust Bowl” of the 1930’s

When you look at a photograph of the entrance to the Bitter-Enders cave the name is painted in blue. The original color was an extremely faded yellow. On one expedition I carried along a brush and a tube of blue acrylic paint and copied over the original to preserve the lettering. This is a very good paint as it has lasted since 1969."

Denver Kimberlin
Coweta, Oklahoma

"I thought of a term we would use when I was a child. It is "Modern" which meant if your house was modern you had a bathroom in the house. Have not thought of that for a long time, anybody out there remember that saying?" -Doug Williams
"Hi Butch, A reader asked about the barber shop (Mitchell's at 540 12th NW). I assume she was referring to the one built of petrified wood? Our state expert on petrified wood is Neil Suneson from the Oklahoma Geological Survey. He says that the barber shop is made of petrified wood from the Antlers Formation of the Cretaceous found near Gene Autry. Put in English, that wood was from the era of the dinosaurs, probably a big logjam that got mudded in and then fossilized." -Don Loving
"Recently I have heard seniors talking about the fabulous places they went for their senior trip,... New York City.....Orlando..... etc., and it reminded me of mine. I graduated in 1945 and it took us about thirty minutes to get to Turner Falls. We saw lots of other seniors when we were there, so I guess Turner Falls was the destination for lots of schools back then. Are there some of you that went to Turner Falls also?"
"Hi Butch, Here are some pictures that I took last Friday in Ardmore. There is one of a Ted Spurgeon that was a B-24 pilot during WWII  (close-up of plane). I also took a picture of his citation. Due to its location, it was a bit hard to get a real good picture of the citation. He was a very humble man. I enjoyed visiting with him at the museum." -Cecil Elliott in OKC

"Butch, I was in Mr. J. C. Dunn's 7th grade shop class, the year he was murdered, he also lived up the street from my family, He was my favorite teacher, and he didn't put up with any horse play. He had a paddle that was a baseball bat cut in half to make one side flat, Made sure to act right in that class. I was always the one to go and get his mail from the Jr. high office. I remember he would make a muscle with his right arm, and would say see that boys, this is the arm on the Box of Arm & Hammer Baking Soda. And I do believe it was! Had alot of fun listening to all his baseball stories."
"Great Job!!!!  I especially enjoyed this weeks' article about Coach Dunn. He had quite the reputation.  Everything from athlete to gambler to a teacher who was ferocious with a paddle in his hand.  He taught shop and mechanical drawing.  He would take a baseball bat, plane down both sides until it was flat and use it as a paddle.  If he had to spank one, he would spank the entire class periodically. Needless to say there was very little chaos or disrespect in his classes.  Hope you never ended up on the receiving end Butch."  -Phil

Note:  Phil, I remember Dunn's paddle, though I never got a paddling from him.  One of his rules, if you knocked your drafting ruler or T-Square off your desk in Mechanical Drawing class, you automatically got a lick.  -Butch

"I didn't have any luck with tomatoes until the fall. After it cooled off -- September -- flowers and fruit developed. Covered when frost was predicted and had still more. Lots (2 paper grocery bags full) of green ones where picked just be killing frost. All from 2 plants.... used mushroom compost... very good." -David Hale, Lawton
"Those cast iron chairs and tables were sold by Ardmore Fence Company, Arbuckle Supply and other places around Ardmore in the 50s and 60s they were sold separately and in sets which included a love seat and table including as many chairs chairs as you wanted they came in different designs depending on who the manufacturer was. hope this helps." -Rick


Father's Day Book Release Party at Winery of the Wichitas
Features New Book Celebrating Medicine Park's Colorful History

From Chicago's Arcadia Publishing comes "Medicine Park - Oklahoma’s First Resort", by local Medicine Park author, website developer and graphic designer David C. Lott. The book is the latest in the publisher's popular Images of America series.

This Sunday, on Father's Day from 2:00 - 4:00, the Winery of the Wichitas in Medicine Park, is celebrating the release of the new book. The book is filled with tid bits of local Medicine Park history and vintage photographs of the area. The book release party and book signing are open to the public and admission is free. Books will be available for purchase at the event.

Known as the “Jewel of the Southwest,” Medicine Park’s colorful history and formative years come alive in the book through vintage images of the area. The book contains approximately 22,000 words of text history and over 200 photographs.

Lott says he has for the past twenty years wanted to chronicle Medicine Park's formative days, but had absolutely no clue how to find a publisher. Then "Out of the blue, about a year and half ago, Arcadia Publishing contacted me. I was thrilled," he says.

Lott has portrayed through his text and imagery what he calls Medicine Park's "salad days" - a phrase affectionately borrowed from long time resident, restaurant owner and raconteur the late Ruby "GrandMa" Leath. He's referring to the major time periods of the community's growth ranging from it's founding in 1908, early development and growth through the 1920', 30's and 40's, and then formally becoming a town in 1969.

Lott says that he has been collecting historical photographs of the area and documenting the town's formative history since the late 1980's. However, it was only through the assistance of the Museum of the Great Plains, and several local friends, and area people that Lott says he was able to complete his research for the project.

He emphases, "There is not any way in the space allotted for the book to tell the entire history of such a colorful little community as Medicine Park. The goal was to provide present and future generations with a brief "snapshot" of our historic resort community's early development and formative years and to preserve small glimpses of historical information, timelines, and imagery that may otherwise be lost or forgotten."

Lott adds, "It is my personal hope, as an advocate for more than two decades for preservation, restoration, and revitalization of Medicine Park, that it will serve as a partial reminder of our past challenges and successes as the town journeys through the new century."

Arcadia Publishing is best known for its popular "Images of America" series. Since its inception in 1993, the series has preserved and shared the history of hundreds of individual communities throughout the country. Each of their more than 5,000 titles feature vintage black-and-white photographs, celebrating a town or region, bringing to life the people, places, and events that define the community. Their mission is to make history accessible and meaningful through the publication of books on the heritage of America’s people and places.

"Medicine Park - Oklahoma's First Resort" is available nationwide through major booksellers, and at local area bookstores, museums, independent retailers in Lawton and Medicine Park, online book retailers, through Arcadia Publishing's website and also Lott's website of

The books sell for $21.99
For information contact Lott at

David C. Lott
Lawtonka Media & Creative
PO Box 343
Medicine Park, Oklahoma 73557

(580) 529-2500
(580) 574-1406 cell

"The view photo file below is of a table and chairs from the old City Drug Store located on West 11th and Broadway in Sulphur Oklahoma JB (Speck) Denman of (JB and Ruby Denman Photography) bought them in 1965 or so when the city drug store closed. His son JB Denman js now lives in the DFW area and has had the table and chairs for the last 45 years. JB is donating them to the Sulphur Historical Museum. I volunteered to restore them back into the condition that they were in in the 50's and take them to Sulphur. The city drug store was 4 blocks from my house and I have set in those chairs and at that table many times in the 50's and 60's and I drank lots of sodas and cherry phosphates and ate banana splits. There are 11 photos of the table and chairs. They were a tad rusty when I got them. There are arrows at the top of the photo page so you can scroll back and forth and see what they looked like when I got them. There is also a photo of the old city drug formerly Ellis Dry Goods." -George Peveto

More views of the table and chairs, the Sulphur dry goods store, and others.

Istanbul is not Constantinople by The Four Lads - 1953

See everyone next week!

Butch and Jill Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
PO Box 11
Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402

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