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Vol 16  Issue 788      Circulation 5,000       March 1, 2012

PO Box 2

Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402

email address:  butchbridges@oklahomahistory.net

580-657-8616


We had an interest conversation the other day on Facebook about Bomar, Oklahoma.  Some (including me) remember it being located about 3 miles south of Marietta, Oklahoma on Highway 77.  But there were several who remember a Bomar located south of Thackerville.

Frances Long Anthony Dunlap said: "I was born at Bomar, the one south of Marietta. My dad was also born there when it was Bob, Indian Territory. He was born in 1903 and I was born in 1928. There was a school there where my mother and dad both attended. The school later became a church and was also used by the Home Demonstration Club which has another name now. There was a grocery store across the road from the school. The grocer was on the East side of Hwy 77 and the school or church was on the west side."

Sharri Adock said: "I think there is Bomar half way between Marietta and Thackerville."

What brought up this conversation with over 40 posts on Facebook was an email I received from Nancy Wilson.

Nancy Wilson's email read: "I see a request for info on some Thackerville residents in the 1908 era. I am looking for information about Bob, now known as Bomar, which is just south of Thackerville. Where might I find early history, residents, etc. about Bob 1900-1910? My grandmother, Alma Brunt Coffman, came to I.T. from the Alto, TX, area with her parents, Jesse and Molly Brunt, around 1900-1907. They lived in Bob for some time where Jesse worked some land for the Daube family. They eventually moved on to the Middleburg/Chickasha area. Any info or leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much."  nancywilson2020@aol.com
 

I believed since the early 60s Bomar, Oklahoma was a few miles south of Marietta, and now to learn there was another Bomar south of Thackerville, Oklahoma, well, I am confused for sure.  Maybe someone can enlighten us on these two Bomar towns?

"Bomar, formally Bob. In Love county, five miles south of Marietta. Post office name changed to Bomar, December 30, 1907, and discontinued May 31, 1924. Named for Dr. Edward Bomar of Gainesville, Texas." -Oklahoma Place Names book

Below is a link to a 30-question test to see how well you know US Law. Not exactly grade-school level. Give it a shot, and see how well you do! Supposedly 96% of all High School Seniors FAILED this test .. AND if that's not bad enough, 50+% of all individuals over 50 did too!! Take the test and be surprised at what we don't know................

http://games.toast.net/independence/

Two evenings ago our automatic GE dishwasher quit draining, leaving
water standing inside when you opened the door. I hoped it wasn't a defunct pump motor or something serious like that, costing megabucks to fix. I found a self-help video on youtube on how to clean the drain using baking soda and vinegar. Sure enough that did the trick. I guess after 4 years the water calcium deposits had built up in the drain and all, and it just needed getting that junk out of the drain and lines and water slinger. I think the calcium deposit accumulation was speeded up by the "plate warmer" part of the dishwashing. Anyway, about three doses of baking soda and vinegar, and the drain was working again! So for preventative maintenance on the automatic dishwasher and water calsium buildup, we'll put a 1/2 gal of vinegar through it every month.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nr6tIO5iNSc

From This and That newsletter archives of March 6, 1999:
Last week I promised to show you the bank notes issued by four Ardmore, Oklahoma bank around 1905. They were sent to me by an ex-Ardmoreite, Harold Pittman, who now lives in CA. This first one was issued by the old Exchange National Bank here in Ardmore. It's a 1902 series $50 dollar bill.
http://www.oklahomahistory.net/photos/exchbnk.jpg

This second on is a $20 bill issued by the First National Bank of Ardmore, it to is a 1902 series.
http://www.oklahomahistory.net/photos/fnbnkard.jpg

This next beauty is another 1902 series issued by the State National Bank of Ardmore. It's a $10 denomination.
http://www.oklahomahistory.net/photos/stnatbnk.jpg

And this last one is a $10 bill issued in 1907 by the National Bank of Ardmore.
http://www.oklahomahistory.net/photos/natbnkar.jpg
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Last Saturday several people, myself included, met at the Carter County Annex Building to clean, index, and repair some of the old record books stored there. Some of these old 'red books" go back to statehood. Those who volunteered their time that Saturday were: Robin Ezell, Teresa Morgan, Angie Cox, Karen Volino, and myself. I tried my hand at recovering several of the books with some heavy canvas, while the girls were busy cleaning, indexing, sorting, etc. Here's a pic the Ardmoreite took:
http://www.oklahomahistory.net/photos/morgan.jpg
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In the 70s Ardmore had someone better then a meteorologist when it came to predicting rain. He was a full blood Choctaw Indian by the name of Buster Ned. I never personally met Buster Ned, but I'd see him around town many times during those years. Buster Ned had instilled within himself, this uncanny ability to predict rain. One of his main signs for forecasting came from the hoot owl. There were other signs he'd look for, but the hoot owl proved to be the most reliable. In the late afternoons, around 4pm, if he heard the hoot owl on the land he lived on near Durwood, Oklahoma, he knew it would rain within two or three days. He was renowned throughout the area and respected by all. Buster Ned was quoted many times by Ardmoreite columnist "Mac" McGalliard. Buster was born to Frank and Elizabeth Parker Ned in the Marshall county community of Simpson, Oklahoma March 9, 1924. Here is a pic I took of a painting of Buster Ned that hangs in the Money Services business, #6 B Street Northwest, here in Ardmore.
http://www.oklahomahistory.net/photos/buster.jpg
 

Q. Where was the first Protestant mission school built in Indian Territory?
A. "Located in present Mayes County, Oklahoma, Union Mission was the first Protestant Christian mission established in "Indian Territory" or present Oklahoma. Technically, at that time the area was within Arkansas Territory. The families arrived in February 1821, finished the log houses, and then constructed the first school building in present Oklahoma, opening it in September 1, 1821." -Denise Menke

http://digital.library.okstate.edu/encyclopedia/entries/U/UN005.html

Q. What Cherokee Indian developed the Cherokee alphabet?
A. (answer in next week's T&T)

Gas prices today in the Ardmore area......

http://www.oklahomahistory.net/gasprices.html

Some mail from this week's MAILBAG.....

"Butch: Thought you might be interested in this article. I have not heard of a new drive in theater being opened anywhere in the last 50 years."  -Larry Watkins

http://www.star-telegram.com/2012/02/21/3752284/drive-in-theater-along-trinity.html
"Butch, I have been able to identify most of the people in the picture. Standing, L to R : Bill Heron, Vernon Straughn, Bob Meason, Otis,?Goober? Haines, J. B. ?Hook? Edgeman, Arthur ?Skinny? Stewart, not identified. Kneeling, L to R: Hubert Heron, Calvin Huffaker, not identified.  I believe the two ?not identified? players are Eddie Willingham and Merle Cooper. I have no idea who the ?bat boy? in front is.

http://www.oklahomahistory.net/ttphotos12a/ChickasawLumberTeam.jpg

Also I have attached of another team my dad played for in his 20+ year softball career; Beall?s IGA ? 1953." -Lance Straughn

http://www.oklahomahistory.net/ttphotos12a/BeallsIGA1953.jpg


"Butch, a couple of weeks Lance Straughn sent you an article about his dad Vernon, and stated he was trying to get help in having Vernon installed in the Softball Hall of Fame. I grew up with the Straughns in Wilson and I can tell you this, there was not a finer man that ever walked the streets of Wilson. He raised 3 sons who have all left a mark in and around Wilson and all have carried on the Chickasaw culture. I graduated from high school with Glenn (Buddy), Barry was two years older and Lance was 2 years younger than me. Vernon stood tall in everyone's eyes and was a great leader of young men and women. Vernons accomplishments on the athletic fields are still talked about today by those who knew him. It would be a real shame if Vernon was never Installed as a member of the Hall."  -Ken Kemp, Whitesboro, Texas
"Dear Butch, I read the April 29, 2010 T&T about the sign that was found in Fort Worth. I am a granddaughter of George P. Selvidge, Sr. George had a brother W. A. Selvidge who lived in Alvarado, TX which is near Fort Worth. I think his descendants lived in Fort Worth. That might explain how the sign got to Fort Worth but not why it was hidden in the house." -Rebekah

http://www.oklahomahistory.net/ttphotos10a/PeoplesBldgAndLoan042510d.jpg

http://www.oklahomahistory.net/ttphotos10a/PeoplesBldgAndLoan042510c.jpg


"Butch, I found one pic of me at the ranch, but I am still looking for one of me with Gene by the ranch sign. My mom ran a souvenir stand located at the bottom of horseshoe curve, just past the blue hole. Directly across US 77 was a burro ride that went up around the Arbuckles, and I got free daily rides! Dad was a cook at the Cedarvale Inn (east side of highway) and skating rink on the way to Davis. We lived there the summer of 1942? You had a lot of material several years ago in the T&T about the Bar-C Ranch." -Donald Bridges in CA
http://www.oklahomahistory.net/ttphotos12a/BarCRanch1942.jpg

Cedarvale Grill on Highway 77 in the Arbuckle Mts. The rental cabins were on the west. A bit further north was a swimming hole that was part of the Baptist summer camp.

http://www.oklahomahistory.net/ttphotos5a/CedarvaleGrill47.jpg


"I see a request for info on some Thackerville residents in the 1908 era. I am looking for information about Bob, now known as Bomar (5 miles south of Thackerville). Where might I find early history, residents, etc. about Bob 1900-1910? My grandmother, Alma Brunt Coffman, came to I.T. from the Alto, TX, area with her parents, Jesse and Molly Brunt, around 1900-1907. They lived in Bob for some time where Jesse worked some land for the Daube family. They eventually moved on to the Middleburg/Chickasha area.  Any info or leads would be greatly appreciated. Thanks so much." nancywilson2020@aol.com
"Butch I got a question, seems the term Educated Hamburger is gone now like the Edsel but even back when it was only known a few hundred miles from here, where did that term come from originally, for those that have forgotten it , it meant a hamburger with mayo lettuce tomatoes and no onions. We still have a walking national treasure around here, Rose from Bill and Barbs, hardest working woman I ever saw, last I saw her she was working at Walmart shoe dept, wish I could say give me a educated, what a cheese burger Rose, just one more time" -Linda Long
"Your recent newsletter included a letter re Orr, OK. signed by a gentleman who last name was WALLACE. All of my family on both sides came into the CHICKASAW NATION communities of Orr, Cornish, St. Petersburg, Grady, around 1880. These families included the Browns, Bourlands Dunford, Baker on my mother's side and the Hancocks, Hammons, Burges, Dorsetts on fathers side. There are dozens of other names because of so many children on each side and their marriages. Seems like at one time I had relatives of some degree in most of Carter, Love and Jefferson County there are not too many of my age, 85 this year, left It was wonderful to grow up with dozens of aunt, uncles and cousins where we were all friends from both sides of my extended family As the name Wallace is also connected to my Dorsett family could you give me the e mail address of this gentleman so that i might contact him. Enjoy your weekly newsletters so much." -Jo Dorsett Kemmer
"Where is Ann's Chicken Fry? From the look of the cars I lived somewhere in OKC about that time and I don't remember it at all." -Wes

http://www.oklahomahistory.net/ttphotos12a/AnnsChickenFryHouseOKCmap.jpg


"Dear Butch, In the early 60s around the time of the Cuban Missile Crisis, my dad, Ben Day, started building underground fallout shelters. I cannot tell you if he built any but I sure would like to find out. I do remember in the later 60s working one summer on one in Davis and would like to find out if it is still there. They had drilled a water well in it. Seems like the walls and ceiling were over 12 inches thick and the steel in it was overwhelming. Maybe readers of This & That can help me find the shelters he built. It would be very interesting to visit each one. Sure hope someone knows something about them, especially the one I worked on in Davis, think the summer of 69."  -Randy Day, Noble, OK.  annrandy@netzero.com
"Thought of you today. We are at Porterville, CA and had two burger baskets with drinks at a Mexican place called Super Burger and were good! Fed me and wife and dog. lol big meal burger basket $6.59 double meat cheeseburger with big drink. Deluxe cheese burger with regular drink $4.69 =  $12.15 tax and all. Maybe the long distance record for your burger places?"  -Garvis
"Wichita Falls TX pit bull attack this week. I do not understand why they did not charge the owners with violation of the Texas Dangerous Dog Statue, a Felony."  -Larry

http://www.timesrecordnews.com/news/2012/feb/26/dog-attack-reignites-talks-of-pet-laws/


"I just added The Daily Ardmoreite to my "News" folder of bookmarks (everything from cable news channels, to OKC and Dallas papers, to
tech and trivia). Read the headlines, then clicked on Obits and found out Joe Ben Ponder had passed away. Ardmore has lost another icon."
http://www.ardmoreite.com/obituaries/x564868366/Obit-Joe-Ben-Ponder

"There is nothing wrong with your television set. Do not attempt to adjust the picture. We are controlling transmission. If we wish to make it louder, we will bring up the volume. If we wish to make it softer, we will tune it to a whisper. We will control the horizontal. We will control the vertical. We can roll the image, make it flutter. We can change the focus to a soft blur or sharpen it to crystal clarity. For the next hour, sit quietly and we will control all that you see and hear. We repeat: there is nothing wrong with your television set. You are about to participate in a great adventure. You are about to experience the awe and mystery which reaches from the inner mind to ? The Outer Limits."  ?Opening narration, The Control Voice, 1960s

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8CtjhWhw2I8&feature=related

See everyone next week!

Butch and Jill Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
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Lone Grove, Oklahoma 73443

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