This and That Newsletter
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Vol 16  Issue 823      Circulation 5,000       November 1, 2012

PO Box 11

Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402

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Last week I talked about the wonderful time we had at the Chickasaw Fall Festival at Emet, Oklahoma.  I forgot to put a couple of links in the write-up.  This first one is a drawing of how the homeplace and property was laid out around 1900.

The next links are the front and back of a beautiful full 8 page color brochure the Chickasaw Nation gave to everyone who tours the museum at Emet. If you are near Tishomingo, I highly recommend you drive just 10 miles to the east to Emet and visit this great piece of the Chickasaw Nation's past. Its been restored to mint condition, with more restoration being done on an ongoing basis.

According to the brochure, the museum is open 10am to 4pm Wednesday - Saturday. Phone 580-436-2603.

There was an email in last week's Mailbag from a person seeking to purchase the book, Centennial: from Boastown to Ghostown, Our Hometown published in 2007 (239 pages) by Don Mitchell.  Don's book is a collection of old photos, stories, articles, and recollections of Bromide, Oklahoma by those who made it, from its beginning to today. The book is available from the author below:

Don Mitchell
4032 Alava Dr
Ft Worth TX 76133

$15 plus $5 shipping - total:  $20

Bromide, Oklahoma - Formerly Zenobia. In northeastern Johnston county, 5 miles northwest of Wapanuka.  Post office name changed to Bromide June 8, 1907. Took its name from nearby mineral springs.

Zenobia, Oklahoma - formerly Juanita. Present Bromide. Post office name changed to Zenobia April 27, 1906. Named for Zenobia Jackson, daughter of W.H. Jackson, territorial jurist.

Sitting out front of The Shop second hand store in Lone Grove (just east of Lone Grove Feed Store) is a piece of history from bygone days. It's a grain wagon.

August 2, 1984 -  District Judge Woodrow George appoints Ardmoreite Bebe Bridges as Special Judge. Bebe is the second woman judge to serve on the bench. The first was Christine Legate in the 1950s.

I received an interesting newspaper clipping from Houston this week.  Some of you remember I've mentioned several times about my task of trying to get rid of fire ants using Bengal Fire Ant Killer.  Well, this elderly gentleman in Houston solved the problem.  lol

By the way, my Bengal Fire Ant Killer from Ardmore Lumber has been working great for several years now.

Jill and I are doing great on our Paleo Diet (caveman diet).  Been almost 2 weeks now, and we are strictly following the diet. Today my BP is down to 142/85, not perfect but so much better than that 172/89 a couple weeks ago. Down 9 pounds to 184 as of today.  Feel so much better.

Ardmoreite Wayne Vaughn opened a persimmon seed this week, inside was a spoon!  Looks like we're going to be shoveling snow this winter.  :-(

In the past week my list of vicious dog attacks in Oklahoma has grown with leaps and bounds. Some evenings I'd add a dozen or more attacks just within Oklahoma.

Oklahoma History Revisited by Larry Guthrie, Sulphur

Question:  The speed limit for cars was what in 1942?

Answer:  The state and the nation began tightening up in preparation for the long war pull. In May, 1942, Governor Phillips had set a 40 mile per hour speed limit as a conservation measure on November 30, gas pumps gushed their last full measure and motorists settled down to gas rationing. Private cars were permitted four gallons a week.

From This and That newsletter archives of November 7, 1998:

This week a pleasant surprise arrived by the U.S. Mail! It was an envelope with two photos in it..... of this bell located on Hwy 23 at the north edge of Eureka Springs, Arkansas. I was in Eureka Springs in the early 70s, but sure didn't notice this bell. The thing that sticks out in my mind about Eureka Springs was I tried to sleep that night in a Volkswagen Beetle, and I swore I'd never try that again! I hurt all over the next morning. The dumb things we do when young and mindless. Anyway, the friend that sent these was in Eureka Springs on vacation.
My friend Ronnie Roberts loaned me his photo of the 1973 Dillinger movie in which parts of it were filmed in the courthouse rotunda here in Ardmore. Melvin Purvis was cool sitting there on the shoeshine stand, talking to one of our local kids.... David Bacon, son of Ray Bacon at the First National Bank here in Ardmore. David didn't want to be a G-man. Ronnie was also in the movie along with Wayne Warthen, Ray Bacon, James Clark, and several other local townspeople. Of course the stars of Dillinger were Warren Oates and Cloris Leachman.
Jimmie McDaniel has a great pic. It's the old train depot in Mannsville, Oklahoma. Mannsville is 15 miles east of Ardmore.
A couple months ago I noticed my neighbor's old dog had these great big rough looking calluses behind her "elbows" and "knees". These were very rough and large, about the size of a silver dollar. So I did some searching on the Net and found several websites on canine care and they said to give the dog Shark Liver Oil if he has any kind of hair and skin problems. Not only did she have those calluses, but a lot of her hair was gone and thin. Plus she had no energy whatsoever. So I started pricking a couple of Shark Liver Oil capsules and squeezing them out on some dog food for her. Now two months later, it is like a miracle! The calluses are completely gone, and hair has grown back where the rough spots were. Her coat has grown back thick, black and shiny. And she will run all the way from her yard to mine, which she hasn't done in several years. Amazing what something so simple as Shark Liver Oil can do.
Last Thursday I went to our annual Ducks Unlimited Banquet at the Hardy Murphy Coliseum here in Ardmore. I will have to say, its one of the fun events I go to. Lots of drawings..... and the kids all win something! It's great to see the smiles on all the youngins. My friend even won the grand door prize...... a 12 gauge Bennelli Shotgun valued at $1,145. Wow! But the fun thing was when we got out of his (his wife's) car to go into the coliseum where the banquet was being held, he decided to put the emergency brake on. We couldn't figure out how to take it off..... I got my cell phone out of my back pocket, called his wife, she said... "the emergency brake is not on that I know of" hahaha and that she has never pushed the emergency brake on... so she had no idea how to release it. Anyway, after 20 minutes, he decided to get the manual out of the glove compartment... finally it said to "depress the emergency brake pedal a second time to release it" hahahahaha I got to talk with a lot of friends I haven't seen in months..... it was really a fun evening. I would recommend the Ducks Unlimited Banquet to anyone! Local caterer D. Allen Wint was there catering us all to his BBQ! Plus someone brought Mountain Oysters again this year. I ate some, they weren't too bad.. but it takes some psyching out to eat them.

Gas prices today in the Ardmore area......

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Some mail from this week's MAILBAG.....

Tishomingo 1st Baptist Church "Merry Market" arts and craft fair will kick off for the 2nd year tomorrow (Friday, Nov. 2) at 10 am - 5pm in the Family Life Center, 407 East Main Street, Tishomingo. The fair will continue on Saturday, Nov. 3 from 10 am to 3pm. We have 23 vendors this year with a vast variety of one of a kind handmade items, jewelry, make-up, purses, wood creations, knives, Mary Kay, Scentsy, Grace Adele handbags, custom photography, custom embroidery, Tupperware, Pink Zebra, Pampered Chef, religious items from the JMBA store between Tish and Madill and much, much more. Tish Choir Booster Club members will be having the food court featuring a "Loaded Baked Potato" luncheon on Friday for $5.00. You can dine in or carry-out by contacting Jennifer Williams by calling or texting her at 580-371-5675. Parking and Admission is FREE !!!!!! We have a good group of vendors and hope that the public will come out and support this 2nd Annual Event!!!

Vickie Luster,
601 E. Main St.
Tishomingo, OK 73460-2347
Cell: 580-257-1818

"I really enjoyed this week's newsletter. Thanks for consistently bringing us such great memories and information that is so wonderful. Loved the stories about Emet. While I was at First Methodist in the 50's- early 60's, I think that Geraldine Rawlins was the Music Director and Ruth Milner was the Organist. Ruth and her sister Ruby Krueger were cousins of my mother. My sister and I took weekly piano lessons from Ruby and Ruth used to let me play around on the organ occasionally. Lila Stout sounds familiar but I don't remember when she was there. Loved the conversation about the Kraft cheeses. We never had a family holiday dinner without a relish tray and celery stuffed with Kraft cheese, usually the Olive Pimento or the Pineapple, was always on the tray. Whenever I pull out the green glass plate that was used for the relishes, I immediately think of celery filled with Kraft cheese spread." -Nancy Coffman Wilson
"The C-47 was basically the same as the DC-3 and after the war many of them were sold and converted to civilian configurations where the DC-3s for a number of years continued to be workhorses on commercial airlines. My first flight was on a DC-3 on the old Central Airlines going from Amon Carter Field (between Dallas and Fort Worth before DFW) to Enid. We got as far as Oklahoma City and the pilot said the engine was running a little rough and he wouldn't go on. He said he was not long out of the air corps/air force and if it had been in the military he would have gone on without thinking any more about it, but he thought about all those passengers back in the plane and wouldn't try it." -Wes Leatherock
The Continental Congress Establishes a Corps of Marines November 10, 1775
The C-47 was just like the DC-3 without seats. All the airlines were currently using the DC-3 for short hops. The C-47 was used by the military to haul military equipment. Does anyone know if the Douglas aircraft plant mentioned in last week's T&T is where the air force base at Tinker is now?
"I found the link below today and thought about the magnetic hill near Springer and wanted to share it."
"Scenic Talimena drive in eastern Oklahoma." -Doug Williams!i=2180220654
"We stayed Friday night at Robbers Cave state park after going over scenic Talimena drive in eastern Oklahoma. We did not go to the cave because it was not open and we had to get to see the grandkids." -Doug Williams!i=2180348740
"The spread we remember was the small jar with "Neufchatel" Cheese on the label."
"My parents acquired Camp La Grande back in the early 50's from David Shellenberger. Not sure the circumstances, but at that time my father was a Bootlegger along with Dan Alexander. Dan on the South Side of Myall and my father on the North side.  I am trying to locate photos of the old place. I can barely remember it. Being put up on the counter when I was little. Climbing the Mullberry trees and even on top of one of the old buildings.  He also had a car lot the name LaGrande. Any photo locations would be greatly appreciated. All the family has passed except my children and myself so I am trying to gather as much data, photos and items as possible, before I pass. I hate for all the information on the family to be lost."

Randall B. White PMP / PE / ME
FAA Aviation Safety, Flight Standards AFS-450
Project Control Analyst
AFS400/SAIC Contract Support

Santa Claus is Coming to the Greater Southwest Historical Museum
Ardmore, Oklahoma
And we need your help

Every year more than 2000 schoolchildren tour four different stations. Volunteers read a story to the children the Holiday forest, help Santa Claus inside our historic cabin, assist Mrs. Claus at our cookie decorating station, or help the kids with a holiday related craft project. We also have some behind the scenes tasks that volunteers can assist as well. Please let us know if you would like to play Santa or Mrs. Claus. We need your help. Call the museum 580-226-3857 for more information

Thank You
The Museum Staff

Our strength grows out of our weaknesses. -Ralph Waldo Emerson

See everyone next week!
Butch and Jill Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
PO Box 11
Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402

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