July 6, 2006 Circulation over 5,000 Vol 10 Issue 493

This week I had a conversation with Steve Maxwell who used to live in the old Berryhill homeplace when he was a kid back in the 50s and 60s. It might be one of the oldest houses still standing in Ardmore. The last owner of the house, Mr. Thurman Rouse, says it was built in 1888 or there about. Even though the Munzesheimer-Sayre-Mann house at 323 F SW is said to be built in 1887 and listed as the oldest home in Ardmore by the National Registry of Historic places, one must bear in mind that the Berryhill home was built around that same time or before but was not actually in Ardmore. The Berryhill home located at 618 6th SE was actually in the country during the beginnings of Ardmore and not in the city limits itself as the Munzesheimer-Sayre-Mann home. The Berryhill place on 6th SE was consider in the country back in 1888, can you believe that? Times have changes.

Anyway, Jenks Berryhill and his family were tinsmiths. When they first started in the tin business, they had their workshops behind the house on 6th SE. But they also would own a tin shop just a block south of Main Street on Mill Street SE. The building is still there and the name Berryhill can still be seen on it.

The reason I'm bringing this up about the Berryhills being tinsmiths, is the fact that inside their home at 618 6th SE is the tin borders throughout the two story house. I noticed the metal all over and around the ceilings when I was there in 1999. Of course you can see the Berryhill handiwork on the outside of the home too if you stand at the curb.

Here are pics of the Berryhill Tin Shop at #24 Mill Street SE.
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Below are some pictures I took of the Berryhill home on 6th SE back in 1999:

This is the front of the Berryhill house, north side.
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South side of the house, with the metal roof and decor.
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This is the old stairway in the house with a portal window.
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And the interesting thing noticed, and that you dont see very often in this part of the country, is the Louisiana canebreak growing behind the Berryhill home in 1999.
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Here is a pic I took of the Munzesheimer-Sayre-Mann home on F SW which was first located on East Main between D and E street where Max Munzesheimer, a shoemaker, and his family lived in the home. It was later moved to its present location on F Street SW.
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Old photo of the Munzesheimer and Daube store on Main Street of Ardmore.
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Pioneer Ardmoreite Max Munzenheimer died Christmas morning 1903. He is buried just a few feet from my great grandparents Howard and Ada Carmon in Fairlawn cemetery at Gainesville, TX. As an added note, ancestry.com reports that in 1920 there were only 3 places in the U.S. where a dozen or so Munzenheimers lived.... N.Y., TX and FL. As you will read in the obit below, Max died in Dallas and was buried in Gainesville, so maybe there were no Munzenheimers left in Ardmore in 1920???
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Roy Kendrick of Perry, Oklahoma sent in some scans of a 1928 Oklahoma state highway map. Its interesting to look at all the dirt roads and highways back then compared to now. Back in the early 60s I remember 3rd NE from North Washington to I Street NE (in front of Jess Hickman's laundry mat), always being concrete. But from I NE on east out 3rd was dirt.

"Some of the traffic regulations mentioned on the back said that speed limits for passenger vehicles outside of city limits was 35 MPH. Speed limits for trucks vary with the load. Vehicle on the right has the right of way. Spot lights are prohibited. Out of state commercial vehicles must have Oklahoma license immediately upon entering the state but non-resident other vehicles were allowed 60 days before being required to obtain a license from this state. Also, no vehicle or other object wider than 90 inches shall enter a highway except that traction engines may be 110 inches wide." -Roy

These maps are large files, so give them a minute to download.
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My Patio Tomato plant has made two tomatos. The one I ate this week was so tasty, one of the best I've had in a long time. Now to see if the other one ripens to perfection.
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SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK'S MAILBAG

"Last week it was the skunk....Today it is a baby armadillo in our backyard. Do I just think I live in town????? "- Sylvia in Ardmore
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"Hi. A day trip to Turner Falls. Enjoy." -Susie segseven@classicnet.net
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Butch, upon your This and That advisement, we ordered 20 Paulownia Empress Trees from the email address you listed a couple of months back. We not only received the 20, but discovered we were given 4 extra trees upon arrival! What a deal! The trees arrived with the roots wrapped in cellophane, and each tree had several leaves. We planted all the trees in pots until they looked mature enough to survive outside the pot. Then we planted them in the ground here in West Texas, and we water, water, water. I wanted to share with you what our largest tree looks like after only a couple of months (probably a little over 3 ft tall) and a second photo of a close-up of a leaf. The leaves are so big and beautiful, velvety like, and look fantastic when the wind blows them. We have all the trees but 9 planted now. The others are straggling a little and are still in the pots, but they continue to grow. We love the trees. Thanx for the info.

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Butch, I wanted to share my photos from my recent trip to Flagstaff Arizona with you. Boy was there nothing between West Texas and Flagstaff... Enjoy.
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-Jayson Pruitt Dallas, TX/Madill, Ok JHP@airmail.net
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"Butch, It is obvious that you have hidden some pictures because I cannot find them... However, would you direct me to where the splendid shots are from the top of the Carter County Courthouse? We have our 50th coming up in Oct and I want to tout (again) your site and these pictures.
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"Butch, From the field guide it would appear that the snake someone was wanting to know the name of is a Speckled king snake (Lampropeltis getulus holbrooki) if it is from around here. There are a couple of similar king snakes, but they are not generally in this area." -Joh
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That looks like a King Snake to me. About hamburgers: I must add my two cents worth I guess. I was recently in Canada on a tour and our tour guide took us to his favorite hamburger place in Toronto. It was on the east side, The Beaches area, at a place called LICKS. The burgers were wonderful! Flavorful and the meat was at least 1/2 inch thick. yumm! -N. C., in Shawnee
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"Hello Butch. After spending some time in the U.S. NAVY, coming home for a few months, my Father made a towing trailer, loaded it up and we headed for California. When my father was stationed in California he visited his brother who had moved out there in 1941 so it wasn't like we didn't have someplace to go. In 1957 I had joined the US Air force. I was finishing up with my training and tech school by the end of June I was just waiting on transfer orders. My parents were taking an Oklahoma/Kansas vacation and decided to take my finance and I would meet them at the big family reunion in Ponca City, Okla. Then in Stillwater on July 5th. my finance and I were joined together in marriage by a Justice of the Peace, Mr. O. C. Whipple. It was the first time that my now wife had ever been out of California. So I was not only born in Stillwater, I was married in Stillwater although I had not been there for a visit in three years. Mr. O.C.Whipple not only married my wife and I, he married my parents 25 years before." -Tom Galloway tjg2@comcast.net
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Propane business owner recalls rough beginnings. Sam Enderby was a young man with a good idea. The 88-year-old Gainesville resident and long-time Cooke County businessman remembers he had an plan for bringing the first propane-powered tractor to this part of Texas. In the 1930s tractors ran on gasoline. Enderby thought converting gas-powered tractor engines to propane power made sense. He got the idea from his mother's propane stove. His parents had just acquired the stove and Enderby's mother cooked Thanksgiving dinner for nearly 100 people on it. The whole family was impressed by the efficiency of propane. So when his father bought a brand new Farmall tractor, he wondered if he could make the tractor run more efficiently on liquid propane gas.

To read the rest of the story, go to http://www.gainesvilleregister.com/local/local_story_177205810.html
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Q. Butch, What does the U. C.V. stand for on the back of the markers in the cemetery?

A. United Confederate Volunteer
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Dec 29, 2005 T&T: "Mr. Bridges, When researching some more of my folks I came across one of the Law officers memorials about a cousin's husband. Louis Hervill who was killed along with a constable W Arthur Hood in Addington 28 Jan 1928. The 1920 census list Louis with wife Laura, two children and his father in law Jim Blalock, my great uncle. I not being that familiar with the area didn't find a Newspaper with any stories of the shooting or where there was a trial. Do you know what papers I should try. I have a photo of Louis and wife on their wedding day, but it is on a tape and converted to DVD and I have never taken a photo from a DVD to print. I would be glad to furnish that portion of the DVD to the Historical folks if they wish. I would also like to make contact with who ever gave the information to the Historical Society about him." -Taylor F Crowe floydcrowe@yahoo.com

And today a followup: Mr. Butch--- My old military buddy came by my booth Sunday--Said they were down at the car lot discussing where Murphree's valley ran.---The fellow Thompson who owns the business said he falls from that group of Murphree's---Said when they moved down into the valley the women didn't come ,but stayed in Murfreesboro. --These were men who had been to New Orleans with Jackson---They liked the area and stayed---built cabins and then went for the families.----He also said as far as he knew Murphrees valley was only considered to run from Oneonta to the Ellison Cross Roads. ---- The fellow said he had some historical documents he would bring to the car lot and show him----He will copy them for you.
Now every one has an interest in the Heritage book ---- It is out of print--- Should we locate some I will forward the address ---- Do you have a means to take a movie shot off a DVD and make a good still photo of it?----- I would still like to send a good photo of Louis Hervill for the Law Officers Memorial. -Taylor Crowe in Alabama
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"Hi, thanks to the tip about Soda Pops in OKC, I intend to try it this weekend. I have been reading about the Hamburger Inn, but I also remember a hamburger place in Ardmore called Doug's Place. They had great burgers and fries. Who knows more about that place?" -S Doti, OKC
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"We were at a friends house July 4th and he has these two peacocks that just wandered to his house 2 years ago. The male was trying to strut his stuff right in front of us for his girl. It was a beautiful sight to see him." -Doug
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"Dear Mr, Bridges I try to clear a little bit the picture of the Burris family, so maybe is easy to recognize the persons on it, well I hope you and your family have a nice weekend, rest a little bit now that the street where you work are fixing it and have that for excuse and go fishing in Lake Murray, and probably they have in the cafeteria a nice hamburger, I think you catch a bigger fish in Texoma Lake." -Ernie
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"Town marshal" and "city marshal" were and are today the legal titles of the persons we call chiefs of police. This is true today in both Perry and Oklahoma--the formal title of the chiefs of police is "city marshal." Probably true in most places. From "The First Generation," by Fred Beers, Perry historian, former managing editor of the Perry Daily Journal and later director of corporate communications for the Charles Machine Works (Ditch Witch): "The first meeting of the city council was on October 28 [1893]....As one of his first acts, Mayor [John N.] Brogan appointed William Tilghman as town marshal (chief of police) and John Thornhill, George Starmer, "Fatty" Hopkins and H.A. (Heck) Thomas as policemen.

"Bill Tilghman...was among the most noted peace officers in the West and had already won a reputation as a law enforcer in Guthrie. Before coming to Oklahoma Territory he had teamed up with Bat Masterson to bring law and order to Dodge City, Kansas. With Masterson as sheriff and Tilghman his deputy that wild frontier town was partly tamed. The two may have provided the inspiration for television's fictional Marshal Dillon and his dramatic exploits. Tilghman was killed some thirty years later in Cromwell, Oklahoma, by a bullet fired by a drunken fellow officer." -Wes Leatherock wleathus@yahoo.com
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Here is a vintage advertising blotter from Woerz Bros' Florists in Ardmore, OK. Probably in the 1930's or '40's. Phone number was 995.
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"Ralph Gwin was my best friend when we were living in Miller, Mo. We spent many of our off days together. I have written lots of stories about him. This is the first one. Hope you enjoy it." -Kenneth

1966-67 Miller, Missouri

We haved moved into a farm house close to the pump station/pipeline terminal where I am working. This is located on old Hwy 66, near Mt. Vernon, Mo. The place is an old two story farm house with barns and chicken coops, and a big garden spot. A fellow I am working with Ralph Gwin, is renting the farmland to run cattle as he owns the farm just behind us. He and Pauline, his wife, become our real good friends. Lots of stories to tell about Miller, and Mt. Vernon, Mo. Where shall I start? Here is a one, I thought was funny.

I told Ralph our kids wanted to raise some chickens and it would give them something to do and would be a new experience for them. He said come over tonite and bring a flash light. I will give you some chickens. Well we went over to his house that nite and went out in the barn pasture area. A lot of his chickens were roosting in the trees. He got a gunny sack and I shined the flashlight. He started picking chickens off the limbs. He had gathered up 12 hens and then got us two roosters. Told me we needed to build some nests in the barn cause these hens were laying. I told him, my mother always said hens would quit laying when you moved them. He allowed he hadn't heard that before. Well we took the chickens home and put them in the barn. Setting them on the rafters and wherever we could get one to sit. Not the next day but the day after that, the kids gathered 13 eggs! I went to work and told Ralph about how many eggs we got out of 12 hens and he said I wonder which one of the ROOSTERS aint laying? They continued to lay 12 to 13 eggs everyday as long as we had them. We had eggs and little chicks running out our ears. These were not game chickens, but they did lay colored eggs. Most of them were the prettiest blue/green you ever saw. We had chicken for dinner every Sunday, and quite a few times during the week. And I still like fried chicken!
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Another one of our T&T Readers is writing a book. He's almost finished (for the 10th time) and you'll hear about it here as soon as I get word its available. The only hint I'll give for now is...... Gene Autry, Oklahoma.

"Writing a book is an adventure. To begin with, it is a toy and an amusement. Then it becomes a mistress, then it becomes a master, then it becomes a tyrant. The last phase is that just as you are about to be reconciled to your servitude, you kill the monster, and fling him to the public." -Sir Winston Churchill

See everyone next week!

Butch Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
PO Box 2
Lone Grove, Oklahoma 73443