"This & That" News - January 2001 to March 2001

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Below is January 6, 2001 to March 31, 2001.

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Saturday, March 31, 2001 Vol 5 Issue 206

Last September I told about the Heartland Share program operating in Ardmore and that anyone was eligible to buy "shares" and take part in this wonderful service. The only thing the program asks in return is you do 2 hours of some kind of community service per month. The program started in 1983 and is already established in many states with distribution points in cities all across America. If you want to help bring the Heartland Share Program to your area, or if you or someone you know can be helped by just such a program, you can find out more at their website. If you live in the Ardmore area you can call 580-223-5287 for more information. At the Share website you can learn much more about the program, find the nearest distribution site (there are over 100 in Oklahoma alone now), and even find out what food items will be in next month's Share. http://www.heartlandshare.com

Here is a list of food items I received Saturday March 24th for $17.15

Breaded Chicken Breast Filets - 1 LB. Pork Steak Filets - 1 LB. Pollock Fish Filets - 1 LB. Boston Meat Loaf - 28 OZ. Lean Ground Beef - 1 LB. Salad Mix. Potatoes - 1 bag or 8. Carrots - 1 LB. Cauliflower - 1 head. Radishes - 8 OZ. Oranges - 4. Pink Lady Apples - 4. Texas Grapefruit - 2. Bananas - 5. Chocolate Swirl Pudding - Snack Pack.

This is a photo of the actual Share food items I received for $17.25 March 24th.
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These are volunteers unloading the Heartland Share truck that pulled up behind St Marys Catholic Church at 9:50am Saturday March 24th.
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These pics were taken of volunteers helping with the distribution line and order taking for next month. Registration for April is Monday April 9th between 9am and 12 noon. Distribution day is Saturday April 27th. Call 580-223-5287.
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The Share program can always use a helping hand one Saturday morning of the month when the truck arrives. A couple saturdays ago the Boy Scouts in Wilson, Oklahoma were on hand to help with the unloading. If you're interested in the Share program, give Carole a call.... 580-223-5287. Remember, if you eat you qualify for the Heartland Share Program!

Last week I wrote of the campaign platform of Judge Charles N. Champion back in 1917.

Here is Part Two of Charles N. Champion's platform:

"A Frank Statement by Chas. N. Champion Candidate for District Judge"

"I would indeed be disappointed if my father and uncle were not supporting me in this race. I am imbued with the desire to climb the ladder of public service and I know full well that the only way I can do this is to be fair, impartial, unbiased and honest in the discharge of my duties. These things I expect to do as your District Judge."

"There have been many other instances where fathers and sons have been elected or appointed judges, where one or the other was practicing law. Chief Justice Charles Evans Hughes of the Supreme Court of the United States has a son practicing law who is a member of one of the leading law firms in New York. Judge R.L. Williams, federal district judge, has a brother practicing law in this district. Honorable Rutherford Brett, United States commissioner, is in partnership with his father, Judge R. Grett. No one for a moment would even think, much less charge, that these honorable men might be in the least influenced by these relationships. Neither will I when I become your District Judge be influenced by the fact that my father and uncle practice law."

"In Oklahoma county Judge Tom Chambers was elected District Judge when his son was practicing law before him. Judge Pitchford was District Judge at Okmulgee and his son was a lawyer there. Judge Clem Potter of Gainesville was District Judge and his father practiced before him. In Friday's Ardmoreite you saw the picture of Judge Hays and his son of Okmulgee, one of whom is running for District Judge and the other for the Legislature. In Pushmataha county, County Judge Childers is a candidate for District Judge. He has two sons practicing law there. Honorable Jesse Worten was District Judge at Pawhuska and his father, J.M. Worten, now deceased, practiced law before him. Many other instances might be cited but these are enough."

"Further than this, there are two District Judges in this county. It has been customary that whenever either of the judges is disqualified for any reason in a case before him, the case is transferred to the other judge for trial. Also, whenever the parties to any case ask that another judge try the case, this request is usually granted. No additional expense nor delay is entailed in doing this. This procedure I intend to follow. As your District Judge I will not desire to try any particular case and will transfer cases before me to the other judge upon request. I will always be found on the job fearlessly and fairly and impartially discharging my duties."

"I submit these candid facts for your consideration. I do not believe that my father or uncle would try to impose on your boy or girl. I feel that I am entitled to this promotion and earnestly ask your help. Respectfully, Charles N. Champion"
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Here's an informative Page on Carter county Lawman Bud Ballew.
http://members.tripod.com/ok_lawmen_outlaws/ballew2.html

Southwest of Medford, Oklahoma in Grant County is the town of Nash, Oklahoma. This is a 1971 photo of the Nash Santa Fe depot.
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/nash71.jpg

Last year I told about the website linkflair.com where a person can upload their Favorites incase of a hard drive crash, or just to be able to access those Favorites from a computer at work or wherever. Looks like linkflair has bit the dust. But I've found another site just like it. You can export your Favorites to favoritesanywhere.com and be able to access them from any computer in the world on the Net. I have a lot of Favorites, and it only took about 1 minute to export mine to favoritesanywhere.com website for safe keeping. Pretty good insurance.
http://www.favoritesanywhere.com/

SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK'S MAILBAG

"Hi Butch, Regarding the article about Fairview school and the dinky steam train. I called my mother, who will be seventy four in a few days this year and asked her if there was ever a train that ran between Davis and Sulphur. For I am fifty six now, and never heard of it. She was born just west up the hill from Sandy creek bridge, directly south across the hi-way and cross the railroad tracks, from Midway Grocery Store. The old house she was born in, was torn down or moved and new house built there. At around the age of 8 to 10, she remembers the steam train of about three to four freight cars, traveled at about the speed as her father's T-Model truck, but would eventually gain ahead of you. She remembers the train whistle, as she road in her father's T-Model truck, the engineer would blow the whistle for you, which all the kids, bout five of them, riding on the back of the flat bed truck, enjoyed immensely. She remembers the tracks use to be where the Arbuckle Hospital is now. She said if you look at the south side of the hi-way 7, you might can still see the grade here and there, that the tracks were on. Her memory gets a bit fuzzy, but she thinks the tracks went across Rock Creek, past the Sulphur High School, to a cotton gin, later the Farmer's Co-op feed store. She can not remember the route the tracks took to get to the gin from the west side of Sulphur, maybe someone else might remember."

"She remembers the Fairview School, tho she did not attend it, she said she took me to church there one Sunday. Her father moved near the old school around 1944, then she married and I came along. While my Dad was off to war, she said she had taken me to church there in 1946. Her younger brother and sisters were going to school when her father moved near the school building in/about 1944. She said they had a choice of going to Fairview School, but did not want to, instead, elected to ride the school bus to Davis school. She does not remember when it burnt, but remembers talk about it."

"She wanted to talk to the person who wrote the article, but there was no e-mail address listed. Our e-mail address is; rebelokie@yahoo.com I enjoy T&T, which is forward to me. I was born at Davis raised in and around Sulphur and live now near Velma."
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"Butch:: I didn't get to go see it, but I remember when the Freedom Train made its rounds throughout the country. It was more or less a travelling museum that displayed the Constitution, the Declaration of Independence, and other document and items like that."
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"Hi Butch. Someone was wanting some information about the "Freedom Train" in the T& T of last Sat. By typing in "the freedom train" and hit search I found all kind of sites about the Freedom Train. Hope this helps."
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"Butch, That Freedom Train was a traveling museum that went from town to town. It contained, as the brochure stated, copies of 100 of the documents we associate with our freedom: The Declaration of Independence, The Constitution, The Bill of Rights, etc. There have been a few of those trains since then, too." Donna Boyd in windy Culpeper, Va.
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"Butch: We got something started here in Guthrie because of the bell at Saint Mary's Catholic Church. The Knights of Columbus are planning to clean the bell and inside the tower so the writing can possibly be read and translated. Maybe I'll force myself to climb up there when this happens. The bell is dated 1890. The wheel that the rope turns to ring the bell is made of wood rather than metal. Perhaps with a good cleaning we can find more information about it. The bell was placed in the original church in 1890. When the new church was built in 1920, the bell was installed in it. Until the bell was installed, the church used a much smaller bell that was given to us (the church, not 'us') by one of the railroads. Right now I don't know which, but supposedly the bell is still in the church or school someplace. I'm on a hunting expedition to find it now." Bud Caudle BnLFAMILY@aol.com
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"Butch, I was visiting with an older gentleman friend of ours here in Tulsa. He related that his father used to work for a company owner by a Mister George Strawn ( Straughn) of Ardmore. He recounted about coming to Ardmore as a young boy and staying at Mr. Stawn's home, an 8 bedroom house with servant's quarters. Growing up in Ardmore from 1940 on, I don't remember or know what house that would have been. This gentleman friend is probably about 80 right now. Can you shed any light on this."
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"Butch- Good, long This and That. The website is actually Ardmore Army Air Field/Ardmore Air Force Base. Gave a program about it tonight at the Ardmore Village. Seemed to go OK. Some grew up in Gene Autry, a couple worked at the base in 1942-46. Keep up the interesting articles." Gary Simmons Ardmore Army Air Field/Ardmore Air Force Base Website
http://www.brightok.net/~gsimmons
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"This OkGenWeb is this a website or what? if so I couldn't get it to work with www.okgenweb .com or .net or .org" Here is the correct URL..... http://www.rootsweb.com/~okgenweb/
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"I will be back in Ardmore for a get together at Ponders Restaurant on Friday the 1st of June with classmates from the 50's. We always meet there the night before the big alumni banquet in Healdton." Best Regards, Jerry Lewis
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"Butch, my husband is the Boyd -- and his grandfather lived in Ardmore at one time before the turn of the last century; his great-grandmother, Belle Boyd, is buried at Rose Hill, to which she was transferred from the old cemetery that was in This & That a couple weeks ago. We are searching for the grave of her husband, Wm. Hamilton Boyd."

"James Ashby Boyd, according to his bio in _A Standard History of Oklahoma, Vol. IV_, by Joseph Thoburn, moved to Ardmore in 1891. Between then and 1898 he was engaged in the cotton & compress business and the wholesale grocery business in Ardmore. That's one reason why I'm so interested in learning anything any of your readers/fans can tell me about the gins, compresses, and groceries that might have existed back then, and where one might look for employment records."

"The *main* reason, however, is that the descendants of the Boyds who remained in MO swear that during this time James Ashby Boyd was married to a woman named Margaret (maiden name unknown) and had three children with her. One was named Forrest, a second was named Allie, and I don't have a name for the third. My husband is descended from James Ashby Boyd's wife Juanita Allen, whom he married in Wynnewood, IT, in 1901. If any of the Boyds in Ardmore relate to any of this, I would be more than delighted to hear from them, I would be jubilant."

"Keep up the good work, and I'll keep my fingers crossed that somebody who reads your newsletter will send me a clue about the missing part of our Boyd family. Many thanks." Donna S. Boyd momdsb@summit.net
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"Hi Butch, It is one of my greatest pleasures to relay little bell stories. No 1 Story When i was 6 yrs old our grade school had a large bell on the roof of that school covered with an open belfry . I used to go right before end of recess upon a hill that looked down over the school. I would eagerly await to see the bell start to swing. Just the lower part of this bell showed. It would flip a bit from side to side and was black.. I would holler to the other kids before the clapper would start hitting the bell as it swung. This was my first fascination with bells. My dad made me a bell out of a old hubcap and used a big nut to use as a clapper. It rang and i played with it a lot. No 2 Story Years passed and i was 13 and there was this old abandoned AME Church I used to go in there and climb up this dangerous old latter into the tower room and there before me was a huge bronze fancy wheeled St Louis bell 36 inches across. It had a tolling hammer and i used to pull the hammer but very lightly because i would get punished if my parents found out. It had a wonderful tone. Later it was stolen one night and never recovered. Its whel was embossed with vines and flower art work. Story 3 My dad and mom bought me a 20 inch cs bell co bell and i put it in my yard. Now its in my tower here on a building. I recently purchased a rare bell. It is a bell with Ronald Reagan`s face on it. It is a commertave bell made back in the eighties. I would guess it may now be worth a fortune It is 13 inches wide and swings and is made of aluminum alloy. Painted black. The largest bell of iron i have is... Ross Meehan no 22 complete with stands ( ornate ) and ornate wheel too.It has a sweet shrill sound. Story 4...... Our church now has the school bell i mentioned out on the lawn mounted on brick platform.They have a 34 inch bell that is cracked in their bell tower too and as you know, a cracked bell sounds terrible. For years i wanted to fix it. The only way to improve it was to take a 7 inch grinder and grind the hair line crack out all the way through, leaving a 8th inch gap so the crack will not vibrate against itself. They let me grind it and believe me it was a nasty job but i loved it, It now goes "DONG" not perfect but it rings. It used to go..."Brink" or "CLUNK" They do not ring it a lot but sometimes they ring it. Hoped you liked my stories." Ron Delby
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"Dear Butch --- I have been tempted several times to write you for we share many of the same memories of Ardmore, mine going back several decades before yours. My grandparents, the George Sullivans, lived on H street around the corner from your grandparents, and though I did not know them personally I heard my grandma and grandpa speak often of "the Bridges boys". The Carmons were also neighbors. One of my most treasured memories is that of sitting in the twilight on my grandparents front porch greeting their neighbors on their way to prayer meeting at the little Calvary Presbyterian Church, and later enjoying the wonderful aroma of baking bread wafting over the air from John Small's bakery."

"I went to school in the old three story red brick second ward grade school from the first grade through the fourth. We were transferred to the Junior Highschool for the fifth grade, while what I still call the "new school" was being built. Hearing people speaking recently of the fire at the "old school" reminded me how old I am getting and how many years ago I graduated from our "new school".Would love to have a picture of the old school on G street and fifth avenue."

"Also want to thank you for the detailed account of the Jake Hamon murder scandal. My deceased husband, Bob Milner, was the grandson of R.L. Randol who was the proprietor of the Randol Hotel. Have always heard scraps of the story, but never such a detailed account. Bob and I were alumni of the 1945 highschool class and were fortunate enough to attend the fiftieth anniversary reunion before Bob died in 1997. I have a few mementoes of the hotel, but am still a novice on the computer so don't know how to transmit them."

"I have two sons, Bob, Jr., of Dallas, and Tom, of New Orleans. They both grew up in Ardmore, and Tom receives your newsletter." Laura Sue Sullivan Milner
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"I may have told you this before when you were writing about Cecil Button, but when I saw his name again, I thought I would write to your. I really don't remember writing it before. Anyway during WWII sometime about 1944 I was looking at patient charts....I was a Chief Pharmacist Mate in charge of the department selecting transportation of patients who their physicians wanted to send back to Hawaii for treatment or to the US for treatment or discharge. I was very popular with patients who always opted for air transportation over a slow ship, especially if going home. Another chief, not so popular was in charge of sending patients back to duty, if their health permitted. This was in Base Hospital 18.Guam, M.I. Anyway, I ran across the medical chart of Cecil Button of Ardmore, Oklahoma. Can you imagine the thrill? I had to jump up right then and rush to the ward where he was a patient. We really had a great visit, reminiscing about home etc. After the war, I would always have a chat with Cecil when I had a chance, and would we visit. He was a great fellow, and I do miss him."
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"I really enjoyed the comments about Bitter Enders. Evidently there are more entrances to the cave than were thought. While growing up in Davis, we tried to explore as many of the caves in the area as possible and I remember going through the two that your reader mentioned in his response but was unaware that they were also called Bitter Enders. One of the caves east of Turner Falls proved to be tragic for a couple of explorers in the late 50's early 60's as they became trapped in the cave when a torrential rain came and brought the water level up to where they became disoriented. I can remember radio announcements being made that if anyone was around who had experience with the cave please go to Turner Falls and help the emergency folks on site on how the cave was designed and where they might think the trapped people might be. As it turned out, they had gone deep enough into the cave that they were using diving equipment and had become wedged into one of the narrow passage ways and could not get out before their oxygen ran out. Keep up the good work - the information you provide is extremely interesting and brings back fond and bad memories as well."
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"Daylight Saving Time is just around the corner this coming weekend (April 1st, Fool's day). Check out the following site for more info.... http://webexhibits.org/daylightsaving/ - Time in most parts of North America will be "springing forward" this Sunday. If you're curious about why you'll be getting those few extra hours of daylight, visit this informative site. It explores everything from the origin and evolution of daylight-saving time to some of the controversy surrounding its continued existence."
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"I am interested in the person that wrote about the Fairview school in Davis in your column. Would you send them my email address, please. I live in the Fairview community and would like to know more about it. Thank you." Barbara Giddens bags@brightok.net
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"Mr. Bridges: I am trying to locate the name of an old school I attended in the first grade - 1959. It was located in rural Logan Co. - Guthrie. It has been torn down many years. Do you have any suggestions as to how I might locate the name and perhaps some pictures of this possibly one of the last of the 1 room country school houses? Grades 1st. - 8th. I enjoyed your website! Please let me know any ideas you may have. Thank you." Pauletta in Florida Postnest2@aol.com
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"Butch, Haven't talked to you lately but have enjoyed receiving T&T like everyone else. I have a question that you or one of your readers might could answer. Where was Hoxbar, OK located. The Ardmoreite newspaper article of Sept 3,1916 on the killing of "Special Officer" Oscar William Alexander on Sept 1st, states that Alexander was one of 4 "Special Officers", including Dow Braziel that stopped a wagon load of whiskey driven by the Love brothers, "...near Hoxbar south east of this city...". I cannot find Hoxbar on a currant map or in John Morris's "Ghost Towns of Oklahoma" book. How far SE was it? Was it's name changed? Any help would be appreciated. Still looking for relatives and stories of Law Enforcement Officers who were killed in the line of duty in Oklahoma, for the Oklahoma Law Enforcement Memorial in OKlahoma City. Thanks and have a great day, Dennis Lippe, Chairman, Oklahoma Law Enforcement Memorial." DLippe0153@aol.com
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"....the old Daube Ranch South of Mill Creek, Oklahoma. It sold the ranch to TXI out of Dallas. There is one old house on the ranch that you might be interested in researching. It's called the Dodson House. I don't think you can get there until the ground dries out a bit. But this old house is built next to a spring. Whoever Mr. Dodson was, he was quite creative and inventive. He build a custom water wheel out of a car differential to pump water into the rest of his house, but he built a flume direct from the spring which runs through the kitchen area of the house."
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/dodson1.jpg
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"Hi Butch, After Fairview School burned down, about 1937/38, I skipped second grade, and my family moved to the big city (Sulphur), where I attended Washington School for third and fourth grades. My best buddy was a red headed kid, a lot like Mayberry's Opie, whose family later moved to Ardmore. His stepfather, Fount Dustin was killed in a refinery explosion in/near Ardmore in the early forties. My friend, Jack Moorehead, went to high school in Ardmore, joined the navy, and after his discharge went to O.S.U. ( I believe ) and got a degree in journalism. That little redheaded kid is now, and has been for several years, the owner/editor/publisher of California's oldest running newspaper, The Grass Valley Union, and last I heard is doing great. Maybe his highschool classmates (class of 47) would be interested in this little bit of info." Regards, Bob Elliston Billiebob@wgcnet.com
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"hi guys, love your photos, does anyone have a photo past or present of Cement, Okla? my husband great, great grandparents hiram pendleton and wife sarah allen pendleton was buried there and lived there. thank you."
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"Butch, we really appreciate T&T. The next time you are in the city having lunch with the Governor, you might stop to take a picture of the beautiful bell mounted in front of the Oklahoma Historical Society Building. This is on N. Lincoln. It probably has some good history."
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"Here are the links to the pictures of the two bells. I could not see the bell you took pictures of, but since the file name is "chickbell" I'm sure it is the Chickasaw Counsel bell (Tishomingo, OK) that I shot, too. The other bell is on the SW corner of the courthouse in Tishomingo."
http://www.stoutgenealogy.com/russettok/johnstonco/bell_chickasaw.jpg
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"Butch, I have the two books that were written by Moses E. Harris From the cradle to Old Age, this is how he worked hard to get some education-he could not read or write at the age of eighteen-He became a teacher -and Editor. This is his life story of growing up . He was born Dec. 13, 1869 and this book was written in April 1945, at the age of 75 years and 5 months. The second book is A Story of The greatest Human Interest. The story of a plain country boy and the Greatest Instituation in Oklahoma, where hundreds of homeless orphan children are given a chance for a better life. These two books have pictures of the first orphange and after the fire how he struggled and rebuilt the second home with the help of Wirt Franklin, many children from Carter Conty and all around came to this home, he even traveled and picked them up. This is the complete story of how a man had so much love to give to children and let them know what it was like to be loved and have a safe place to live. All of the pictures of all the orphans, the matrons, the rules the children had to go by and the work and the schooling they were taught. I would have liked to have met such a man that so much love and giving of himself, and still had a family of his own that found a way to bring happiness. If anyone is intrested they can email me, maybe I have the information they have been looking for." white@brightok.net
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Last week I mentioned the American Flyers Memorial at Gene Autry. Nearly a year has gone by since the erection of that memorial. I am still looking for relatives of two victims of that 1966 plane crash. The only info in the newspaper about these two victims from Oklahoma were as follows:

Howard Briggs, Tulsa, Oklahoma..... son of Mr. Bernice Briggs
Richard J. Spears, Spavinaw, Oklahoma..... grandmother Mrs. Jo Ann McQueen

If anyone knows how to contact relatives of the above two Army soldiers, please do. We need to let them know about the American Flyers Memorial at Gene Autry, Oklahoma.

"Sometimes the heart sees what is invisible to the eye." - H. Jackson Brown, Jr.

See everyone next Saturday!

Butch Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
PO Box 11
Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402

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Saturday, March 24, 2001 Vol 5 Issue 205

Ardmoreite Charles Champion II came by my house last week with a surprise. It was an almost perfect pair of mounted deer antlers to give me. I decided it would look great by my front door.
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/myhorns.jpg
Charles has been making these mounted deer horns and I've been placing some of them on eBay for him since he doesn't have a computer yet. Here is a picture of Charles working in his shop on West Broadway. That's his son Charles Champion III, with him who helps with the craft.
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/champ6.jpg
This is an example of the items we've put on eBay.
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/cedar3.jpg
Charles II is the son of Charles N. Champion (1905-1955) a District Judge here in Ardmore from 1918 to 1922. His grandfather was Thomas W. Champion (1878-1962) a U.S. District Attorney at Muskogee many years ago before moving to Ardmore around 1906. His grandfather, Thomas Champion, was the defense attorney for probably the most sensational murder trial in Ardmore. The case took place in November 1920 when Clara Smith Hamon, reportedly shot her lover, Ardmore oil millionaire Jake Hamon. Hamon later died from his wound. The shooting was reported in newspapers all across the country as Jake Hamon was slated for a post in President Harding's Cabinet.
http://members.nbci.com/oklahomapast/hamon.html

This is Charles N. Champion's campaign poster back in 1917.
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/champ4.jpg

Here's a photo of Charles' father, Charles N. Champion when he was District Judge.
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/champ22.jpg

Below is the campaign platform for Charles N. Champion back in 1917 [part one]:

A Frank Statement by Chas. N. Champion Candidate for District Judge

It is nightly being charged by my opponent that if I am elected District Judge (and I expect to be) that I will be controlled in my actions upon the district bench by my father and uncle who are now and have been for more then a quarter of a century engaged in the practice of law here in Ardmore.

I have lived in Carter county for 26 years; attended school here; married here; am raising my family here and continue to live among my neighbors and friends in Carter county. Four years ago you elected me County Judge by a nice majority. The same charge was made then. Two years ago you re-elected me. The same charge was again made. I have endeavored as County Judge to fairly and honestly discharge my duties. Many of hundreds of thousands of dollars has passed through my hands and no one can truthfully say I have been unfair or unjust in my handling of this important office. I have heard no one criticize my conduct as County Judge except my opponent who had openly accused me of sending an innocent man to the penitentiary. He should know and I am sure he does, that your County Judge only tries misdemeanors and that I could not, if I wanted to, send a man to the penitentiary because only a district judge can do that under our constitution.

Section 9 of Article 7 of our Constitution prescribes the qualifications for District Judge. This section is as follows:

"Such judge shall be a citizen of the United States and shall have been a resident of the territory embraced within the state for two years, and of the territory comprising his district at least four years, prior to his election; and he shall have been a lawyer licensed by some court of record, or shall have been a judge of some court of record, or both such lawyer and judge, for four years next preceding his election, and shall reside in his district during his term of office."

I possess all these qualifications and am therefore qualified to be District Judge under our constitution. [To be continue next week]

Ardmoreite Charles Champion II is producing Western Americana in its truest form. I've seen his work and know he's making old West accessories from original supplies, like old saddles, old chaps, old conchos, old stirrups, and old rustic wood. If your interested in these one of a kind items, give Charles a call at 580-223-2170.

Where are the Oklahoma towns of Sneed, Homer, Tiff, and Burton located? They used to be towns in Carter county. http://ceil.rootsweb.com/maps-1915/carter-15.html

A reader sent me this brochure of the Freedom Train. The hand written date in the upper left hand corner is 1947. She thought it was a train that travelled across the country gathering supplies for the troops during WWII. Does anyone know about this Freedom Train?
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/ftraina.jpg
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/ftrainb.jpg

If you have the need to broadcast live on the internet, here's a place to look. They do charge a monthly fee, but their site is very impressive. http://www.live365.com

SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK'S MAILBAG

"Hi Butch, I noticed one of the emails this week referred to Bitter Enders Cave. I went in that cave New Years day of 1958. I remember it in a different location though. We left highway 77 just south of the Mountain with the Microwave towers just south of Turner Falls. Straight West about 5 miles where Honey Creek gets a lot of its water is from Bitter Enders Cave. Water comes out of the ground pretty forceful. There are two entrances to the cave. One is just above the stream and the other is farther up the mountain down a shaft like a dug well. Or at least that was the way I remembered it in 1958. I was with a guy named Jerry Robinson. I don't think we told anyone we were going up there. I can tell you that it was an experience. I agree there are a lot of things there that most people can't imagine."
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"Well I finally talked myself into pleading guilty to burning drip gasoline when I was in school. I couldn't have owned and driven two cars in my senior year without it. My dad pumped in the oil field south of Lone Grove. He had quite a setup at the end of the line from the heater or separator. He had his barrels buried in the ground. He would turn the heater up and build pressure in them and force the drip out his loading line into a barrel on his pickup. We always had 6 or 7 barrels under the trees out from the house. I didn't mind the free oil that I used in one of the oil burners from the service stations used oil catch. Summer time was a little more difficult since it didn't burn very well due to vapor locking of the fuel pumps. Some guys thought they were stealing some drip one night and got a barrel of tre-ol-lite. My dad was washing the barrel out with drip and was called to the battery tanks by the gauger. He didn't think anything about it until the next morning when he missed the barrel. I hope that it didn't stick the valves in their engines."
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"Butch, Back in 1955, I received the first Music Achievement Award that the Ardmore Philharmonic ever gave. (It's also the first (and last) award I ever got). A few years ago, I had the brain storm of donating the award medallion back to the Philharmonic organization and set about trying to find someone who might know who I could contact. I didn't come up with anyone and dropped my search. Three weeks ago, I heard of your e-column and subscribed. I am really enjoying it. It gave me renewed desire to donate my medallion back to Ardmore. I was hoping you might have an idea who I might contact. I grew up in Ardmore, moved around the country a lot and became "A born-again Okie" in 1992. I would appreciate your help. Thanks in advance." Judy Ott Chappell
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"Thought you might like to see some pictures of the new Ardmore Foundry (East Jordan Iron Works) at the Ardmore Airpark."
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"BUTCH IF THE PERSON SAYING THEIR DAD WAS AN S.H.MAPP WOULD LIKE TO CONTACT ME,I HAVE LOTS ON THE MAPP FAMILY. MY HUSBAND'S GRANDMOTHER WAS FANNIE ELIZABETH MAPP. I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW IF HERE IN OKLAHOMA IN THE 40'S DID THE KIDS COLLECT FOOD AND CLOTHES FOR OVERSEAS PEOPLE AND A TRAIN CAME THRU TO PICK THEM UP. DOES ANYONE REMEMBER? I WAS LIVING IN CALIFORNIA THEN. I'VE GOT A PICTURE OF THE TRAIN,BUT WILL HAVE TO GO TO MY STORAGE SPACE TO FIND IT." MINNIE LOU WATSON WHITTINGTON. kenco@pldi.net
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"Hi Butch, it was amazing how many comments were made about the shoe repair etc. Now I would like to see if we can get anyone working on a Chat Group or Listbot type of message center for those who graduated from Dickson, Ardmore, Plainview and surrounding area in the 1965-1967 era. We hear from a few people at times but I do not know how to set one of these up. Any experts out there? Is there a reunion plan in the near future?" Mike Pennington MIKEJODY2@JUNO.COM
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"Someone forwarded me the above issue & it was most interesting. There were two items that I definitely relate to: l. John Simmons - I am one of his three daughters. The land for the Aylesworth Cemetery was donated by the Simmons family and my father, John Simmons, maintained the cemetery as long as he lived. Now, my sister, Nowanna Litterell,& her husband drive down from Tulsa to weed, etc. once or twice each year. John Simmons is not buried there but his parents & several other members of the family are there. 2. Kinlock, OK. I went to school at Kinlock in 1932. There was a one room schoolhouse, all 8 grades were taught by a man who lived next door to the school." Johnnie C. Simmons Weaver jjweaver@alltel.net
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"BUTCH. A FRIEND WHO LIVES IN ARDMORE SENDS ME YOUR WEEKLY VOLUMES AND I ENJOY THEM. I HAVE SAVED THEM IN MY FOLDER SO I CAN GO BACK AND CHECK OUT THE PICTURES . I DON'T ALWAYS HAVE TIME TO LOOK AT ALL OF THEM AT THE TIME. IF YOU WILL PUT ME ON YOUR ADDRESS LIST SO I WON'T MISS ANY OF THESE SATURDAY POSTINGS. I LIVE IN MADILL. GREW UP IN THE OIL FIELDS EAST OF TOWN. IF YOU WANT TO PUT A NOTE ON YOUR CALENDAR AND PUT A NOTE IN ONE OF YOUR WEEKS THE CUMBERLAND AND ALYESWORTH REUNION WILL BE JUNE 10,2001 IN MADILL AT THE AMERICAN LEGION BUILDING. POT LUCK MEAL AND OPEN TO ANYONE WHO LIVED IN EITHER COMMUNITY OR HAD ANY CONNECTION THERE. I HOPE TO FIND SOMETHING ON THAT COATSWORTH. I'LL KEEP ME EARS OPEN. HAPPY SAINT PATRICKS DAY." letterman@webtv.net
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"Hi Butch, I knew the brand of tire patches you were going to say before I ever got to the picture. I still have a tin of them also. The camel is about gone and tin is rusted a bit. I got it from the things my dad had saved after he passed away three years ago." Grampe in Juneau
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"Thanks for being alert at those intersections in Ardmore. If anything happened to you, Lots of people would miss you something terrible. I know I would."
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"HI BUTCH, FORGIVE ME FOR WRITING IN ALL CAPS, I HAVE SINE STIFF FINGERS AND THE CAPS HELP RATHER THAN REGULAR TYING. I AM ANSWERING YOUR NOTE ABOUT CLARK GABLE. MANY TIMES I HAVE LOOKED AT HIS BIOGRAPHY HERE AND THERE AND HAVE NOT FOUND MABEL FRANKLIN'S NAME BEING MENTIONED. OF COURSE THIS DOES HAPPEN TO STARS MANY TIMES, BUT HERE IS WHY I KNOW THAT THEY WERE MARRIED, AT LEAST IN THE EYES OF MANY THERE IN ARDMORE. WHEN "GONE WITH THE WIND CAME OUT" THERE WAS A PIECE IN THE PAPER ABOUT HIS LIFE IN AND AROUND GROWING UP. AT THAT TIME, MY MOTHER TOLD ME THAT SHE HAD KNOWN THAT HE WAS MARRIED AND THAT MABEL WITH HER MONEY HAD HELPED TO GET HIM INTO HOLLYWOOD. IF HOWEVER, YOU READ IN MOST OF HIS BIOGRAPHIES, YOU WILL SEE THAT A LADY KNOWN AS JOSEPHINE DILLON WAS THE WEALTHY PERSON WHO HELPED HIM GET INTO HOLLYWOOD.---READ ON. WHEN I WAS IN JUNIOR HIGH SCHOOL, 1939-1940 ETC. I WAS IN SCHOOL WITH THE ADOPTED DAUGHTER OF WIRT FRANKLIN AND SHE TOLD US ABOUT IT. WHEN I WAS IN HIGHSCHOOL I HAD A NUMBER OF CLASSES WITH WIRT FRANKLIN'S GRANDDAUGHTER--ONE ENGLISH LIT CLASS TOUCHED ON THE STORY OF "GONE WITH THE WIND" SHE ALSO TOLD US THE STORY. HOWEVER, BY THEN HE WAS A LEGEND AND HIS FIRST MOVIES WERE BACK TO THE EARLY THIRTIES. "IT HAPPENED ONE NIGHT " WITH CLAUDETTE COLBERT WAS BACK IN 1933 OR 1934 SO THEIR MARRIAGE HAD TO HAVE HAPPENED BEFORE THAT. I AM SORRY THAT I CANNOT TELL YOU MORE THAN THAT. I DO FEEL SURE THAT IT IS TRUE, HOWEVER."
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"If possible, I would like to send this feeler out there to find out if anyone on your list remembers my grandfather who lived in Healdton, Oklahoma for a long time. His name was Cecil Stout. Most people knew him as "Shorty". He owned Healdton Mattress Company. For years he had a fellow by the name of "Jack" who worked for him. My grandparents' home and shop were located on Texas street across from the park. My grandmother's name was Virginia. They raised their family there after my grandfather lost a toe working in the oil fields. He and my grandmother lived there until my grandfather died in 1979. They are both buried there in Mt. Olive Cemetery. Their children's names are: Joe, John Ed, Doris, and Cecil Jr. (my father). If anyone out there remembers this family at all, I would adore hearing from them. Attached is a picture of my grandfather's shop and van. Thank you! I adore this newsletter!" bbyparit@webracks.com
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"Butch- This picture is probably related to the tire plant mentioned in T&T. Women unidentified. Sign indicates Ardmore is 4 miles down the road. (The MacGalliard Collection)" http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/ustires.jpg
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"Butch have you checked out the round barn east of 177 between the Scullin Y & Hickory?? Some one else will have to give you better directions than I can. The story that I was told as a kid was that it was built by German POW's. I remember it set close to the side road, but can't remember what road."
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"Hi Butch. I always enjoy reading your email about southern Oklahoma. I spent alot of my youth in Ardmore and I have fond memories. After 40 years, I went back to Ardmore. Here is some of my memories of Ardmore. Keep up the good work." Richard Henry http://henryextendedfamily.homestead.com/ardmore.html
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"When I was growing up, my parents and brother & sister would drive up from Arlington, TX to see my grandparents living in Ardmore. This was is the 60's before I-35. On Hwy 77, about a mile south of Overbrook, there used to be a store on the east side of the highway at the top of the hill. The store had an indian totem pole out front. We (my brother and sister) used to wait and watch for the totem pole as we drove by coming and going. Can anyone tell me about this place and what ever happened to the totem pole?"
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"Sir: Have you ever heard of Wolf Creek in the Thackerville, Oklahoma area? I'd like to have directions to this area....can you help me? Thank you!" rosesea@wt.net
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I would like to be included on your list to receive This & That.! I grew up in Ardmore born in 1961 and left in 1981 to join the US Air Force. I am a Crew Chief on C130's currently stationed at the old Carswell AFB in Ft. Worth. If any others out there might have info about the Flying horseman I would love to see them... I enjoyed the small site about the elite C-130 flying unit. Thanks for everything you do." Joe Bob Ritter. AHS class of 1980. Joe.Ritter@txcars.ang.af.mil
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"You must love bells as much as I do I own a school style building complete with belfry and bell. I own about 15 bells similar to the pics you have and on new years eve, we ring them all.I have found a couple on ebay auction. Ever go to ebay.com and punch in church bell, school bell or farm bell? I lov to correspond with folks who love bells as well as i. Sincerely Ron Delby PS I have a little foundry here in my yard and sometimes i make bells. Your pics are great!!!!!!"
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"My family came to Madill in 1940 with the oil field. Cumberland field. I was eleven yrs. at the time. One of my memories is the day they changed the name of a little place to Gene Autry. Gene and his wife were in a train car . there was music on a stage an late in the evening men riding horses rode on top of a hill . It was nice to see. our neighbor and friend had b beautiful palameno horse and that horse was chosen for Gene Autry to ride in that parade. Then it was told that it was Trigger. That horse belonged to jimmy green.of Madill. Needless to say he was quite disappointed by that."
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"I finally got a younger man who evidently likes to climb up extremely high ladders. He went all the way up to the bell after church yesterday and took these pictures at the Catholic church in Guthrie, Oklahoma."
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"Hi Butch, Sure enjoyed reading last weeks T&T. Do any of your subscribers/buddies remember the old Fairview School, located about halfway between Davis and Sulphur, about 1 1/2 miles south of Bob Miller's store on the highway? In about 1937/38, I started in the first grade there, before it burned down. It had two rooms, 1st thru 8th grades, and had 2 outhouses, a hand-pump for drinking water, and each room had a big potbellied wood burning stove. My teacher was Mrs. Fisher, and the other teacher and principal was Pete Vander Slice. Somewhere I have a school photo, and I'll send it to you if/when I find it. And does anyone remember the Dinky Train that used to run between Davis and Sulphur; a little steam engine, but that engineer sure could make that whistle sound blue."
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"My father, Lt.Cmdr (Ret) James L. Chandler was a pilot with American Flyers in April 1966. I was only 10 years old at the time of the crash but I vividly remember that night. My father, my sister Katie, my brother Tim, and 3 friends of my sister's and I had all gone to see the "Ghost and Mr. Chicken" at the theater in downtown Ardmore. On our return to our house on Cherry St., we could see the doors to both our house and our neighbor's house open. My mom and our next door neighbor, who's husband, Richard Maynard, also worked for the airline as a pilot, were running back and forth to each other. My mom was hysterical and told us the news. Needless to say, the rest of the evening took on a dire tone. I realize now that for the rest of my Dad's career, everytime any TV report of a plane crash occurred, it brought on the most vivid fears. The next morning my father and I attempted to drive to the site, we were turned away by the authorities. I distinctly remember the weather that morning, it was still foggy, cold and rainy. It seemed appropriate for the time and the circumstance. I was an altar boy at St. Mary's Catholic church, and had to participate in what was my first funeral 3 days later for Anthony Pica. My parents went to 4 funerals that day. I remember how emotional the funeral was, especially graveside, it was horrible, as a young boy I'd never witnessed death and loss and I've never forgotten Anthony's mother that day. My parents are both still around and I just spoke to them, and to this day, Dad doesn't really like to talk about the accident. He left American Flyers within 3 months after the crash and went on to work for Capitol International Airlines, from which he retired in 1980. They both live in Brentwood Tennessee, right outside Nashville. If anyone remembers them and would like to get in touch with them you can reach them here:" eyeworks@bellsouth.net
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Here's the Council Grove Bell I promised. It is located at Council Rd and Melrose Ln, Oklahoma City. The text on the plaque below the bell is as follows..... "This bell, long a symbol of gatherings is dedicated to preserve the memories and the history of the Council Grove community. It's presented in loving memory of William A. "Scooter" Wilson by his classmates, friends and family. This historical old school bell dates back to the late 1890s. When it was first used in the Council Grove District School, located on the southeast corner of Melrose Lane and Council road. This schoolhouse also served as the Union church. When a new school was built in this location in 1938, the bell was moved to the new school and again used. The bell remained at that school until May, 1970 when it was brought to the present Council Grove school by the "Scooter" Wilson memorial fund. This bell is also dedicated to its own precious memories of Council Grove School children for over 70 years."
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"Is there anyway you could send me a copy of the picture of Hobart in 1901. I will be more than glad to reimburse you the cost. I tried printing it off, but it came out small and like it is from a great distance. I do not know how to do it any better. There is no way I can use the magnifying glass to try and identify my grandfather. (if he is in there) The picture on the computer is much plainer than the one I printed off. I even forwarded the This and That to my cousin and he could not even get any of your pictures to come up on his screen. Would appreciate your help on this. Let me know." Sandra Hayes sandrahayes@junct.com
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"This is just a reminder note to let you know of the web page we have for our Ardmore class reunion 1967. Some of you have already signed in and we thank you very much...Some of you have not...We want all of you to..We want to have a great reunion and I know it can happen..Its been alot of fun in the past but this one is going to be the best ever..No little kids to have to find baby sitters for...Yea! We can stay up all night and talk and not have to rush off....If you know the where abouts of another mates please let them know about our web page...I realize there are still some of our mates that don't user computers..But we have to make an effort to contact them....Keep checking the web page for further postings..We are going to be posting a list of people I can't find...Maybe you will know where some of them are and you can contact them or let me know and I will.....Some of the classmates have had some great stories to tell that has happened to them over the years and some have had some pretty tragic ones...I know some of you have had your times and are still going thru some tuff times..I wish you the best..If there anything you need or your classmates can do for ya...Just holler." Bobby Pruitt BEPruitt@worldnet.att.net http://www.Cyberflux-Solutions.com/AHSReunion
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With winter hopefully behind us, we're looking to finish up some things at the American Flyers Memorial at the Airpark. We'd like to see more picnic tables, some off-street parking, and a wood stockade fence around the area, among other things. I found out this week that a teacher at the Comanche, Oklahoma schools brought 150 students over to view the Memorial. I was told the children just stood in front of the Memorial in awe with their big eyes. I was touched to learn these students were there visiting the site.
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"They say a person needs just three things to be truly happy in this world. Someone to love, something to do, and something to hope for." --Tom Bodett

See everyone next Saturday!

Butch Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
PO Box 11
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Saturday, March 17, 2001 Vol 5 Issue 204

Many of you wrote back with the right answer to the mystery photo last week. Mr and Mrs Charles Anderson in Indiana has had that Ardmoreite since 1944. I know one thing, there are a lot of historians reading my T&T by the emails I received. The newspaper printed May 6, 1944 on that special edition. The correct date was June 6, 1944.
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A reader sent me a pic of a counter check on the Cornish Banking Co (before 1907).
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I received an email this week asking about the old Ardmore Akron Tire and Rubber Company. This is not the first time I've received an inquiry about this old Ardmore business. I did some digging and found it started about 1918 and was located "3 miles north of town". The President was John C. Harmony who roomed at the Hotel Ardmore. Elmer and Arthur Wood was V-Presidents, Fox Wood was Treasurer, and Roy Wood was Secretary of the corporation. The business's downtown office was at 209-212 West Main in the Von Weise building. From what I found, the company ceased to be about 1925.

Some other interesting facts I ran across.... in 1910 the Hardy Sanitarium was located at 212 First SW (where the post office is now). I thought it was several years later that Dr. Hardy opened the hospital at 212 First SW. Also in 1926 Harvey Brothers Funeral Parlors was located at 300 West Main.

I found this old box of inner tube patches in my garage. I used to work with these same kind of patches when I fixed flats at Kenneth Chandler's Service Station at East Main and D Street when I was about 16 years old. This particular patch kit was made in Muskogee, Oklahoma by the H.B. Egan Manufacturing Company back in the 1940s. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/hbegan.jpg

Every now and then I get bored (haha), so last Saturday morning I decided to get some Trustys from the county jail and re-paint the stripes in the south parking lot across from the courthouse. County sheriffs office across the state have been providing jail Trusty's to do some of the needed work around Oklahoma courthouses since statehood. Our new sheriff, Harvey Burkhart, is continuing this tradition. Trusty labor sure helps when there is so much to do in the upkeep of four buildings. http://www.brightok.net/cartercounty/photos/crtlot.jpg

A reader asked if I've had any info on the extinct town of Coatsworth, Oklahoma. Coatsworth was located in Marshall county near Madill, Oklahoma. Maybe someone out there knows something about Coatsworth.

The past week around Ardmore it seems like Spring had sprung. This Bradford Pear tree is across from my house at the Ardmore Garden Center, and its in full bloom. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/bradpear.jpg

A Reader told me there were three bells in a yard north of the Armory Building in Healdton, Oklahoma this week. Guess I need to grap my camera and head over there!

SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK'S MAILBAG

"Butch, have you ever heard anyone use the word "tump"? As in, "Be careful, you're going to tump the boat over". I think it's a southern term combining "turn" and "dump". I have heard it all my life and some people I know said that they'd never heard of it."
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"I certainly wish I had the time to put into your endeavor the time that you do. I also wish that I were living back in Davis or Ardmore to show you some of the interesting sites that we as kids took for granite while growing up at Davis, Oklahoma."

"There are a number of caves in and around Turner Falls that we used to explore as well as one out west of Davis just to the southwest of Hennepin that we called "Bitter Enters" as the temperature inside the cave was hotter than the outside and this was during the summer."

"We also burned drip gas in the cars we drove or rode in back in the late 50's and early 60's. Can remember when Pick's Hot Tamale's was located three miles south of Davis on old Highway 77 and they sold one dozen for a buck."

"If someone is looking for good leather work, they need to visit Dye's Boots two miles south of Davis (on the left going south out of Davis) on old Highway 77 it is ran by Ben Dye's (the original owner) Grandson."

"Can also remember swimming at Price's Falls just below the old Waterwheel as well as Turner Falls and even diving off the falls (even though it was not allowed - but more so then than it is now)."
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"In February 1966 I was teaching school and received my draft notice. I was to report to Los Angeles on April 21, 1966. I was quite a confusing day but at last a group of us were told we were going to Fort Bliss, Texas. I was glad to find two friends that I had graduated in 1961 from high school. In the early afternoon we were bussed around LAX to what seemed to be on the south side of the airport. We were to get in a white and red prop plane. They said we would be leaving in a few minutes. Several times during that long afternoon we kept getting announcements that the flight had been delayed. We were finally told that they were going to load the plane. I had never flown and the long wait made me very more apprehensive. I remember how one engine was the last to start and fire came out of the back. It plane shook more than I expected and it seemed like the wings went up and down as we headed down the runway. I thought, "Well I'm sure the crew wouldn't fly a plane that wasn't safe." We landed in Texas and had a good flight. I was separated from my two friends and the rest of the group in Texas. They wanted me to take additional test for OCS. A few weeks later I saw one of my friends and he told me that the plane had crashed the next day killing all aboard. I remember thinking that I hoped that our crew was not on the plane because they had been so nice to us. I was glad to find the American Flyers Memorial website. It is great to see that people remember what we did in those years. I would have been there the next day." Sp5 Robert Gollihugh gollihugh@earthlink.net US56418801 http://www.gollihugh.com/
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"Mystery of Three Oklahoma Tombstones Solved: Three tombstones were found along side an Oklahoma highway north of Davis, Oklahoma and no one knew where they came from. Dennis Muncrief decided to investigate and return the stones to their original location. Read the story of how this happy-ending came about." http://www.interment.net/column/feature/stolen/index.htm
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"The Normandy Invasion began on JUNE 6, 1944. The date in the paper says MAY 6, 1944. Do I win a trip to Hawaii??????!!!!!!!"
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"Can I get a half credit since May 6th, 1944 was a Saturday and the paper said it was a Tuesday? Maybe an honorable mention? :) Keep these wonderful newsletters coming. Please let me know if you need any help with anything. I think your CD idea is a great one. Let me know if I can help with that, too. I have a CD burner on my computer. Keep up the good work!"
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"Butch - The date should have been June 6 , 1944 instead of May 6, 1944. We really enjoy your news letter - keep up the good work. My Dad used to run a vegetable stand on Caddo in the 40's . There was a grocery store also on Caddo and he worked there for a long time. I'd walk down there over the railroad tracts to be with him. We lived on G. Street N.E. His name was S. H. Mapp . There's a lot of memories, (good ones) there and 713 4th N.E. where my Grandmother lived. I also went to Washington School. I remember Small's Bakery. Thanks for the wonderful memories."
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"Butch, This is in response to the reader asking about a leather holster. I know there is a saddle shop out toward Dickson, but I don't know if they do that kind of work. It might be worth a try. If nothing can be found in this area, there is a shop in OKC called Looper Leather Goods. They do a lot of custom work for law enforcement personnel. My husband has had some work done there, and it is top quality. The phone number is 405-677-1655. Also, I tried out that new BBQ place in Davis called Buffalo Gap. It is VERY different. The ribs are smoked and seasoned with a tasty rub. The sauce is a mustard BBQ that is unique. It's not your typical Okie-style BBQ, but if you're looking to try something different, this is the place. Prices are reasonable, atmosphere is fun. Thanks for another entertaining Saturday morning!"
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"Butch, Good Morning, I intended to write you last week about your grandfather building the Methodist church in Hobart, but you know how time gets away from you, but now after this week's news letter, I am glad I did not write you until now. My grandfather, James A. Anderson, hauled the first load of lumber into Hobart to start their town. He is also the great uncle of your good friend, Leroy McDaniel of Mannsville, Oklahoma. He hauled this load of lumber with his big wagon and several of his large mules. James Anderson later moved to Frederick, about 60 miles south of Hobart and was a farmer there until his death in 1932. I have several family members buried at Hobart. After looking at the picture you have up today, I am going to go back thru some of my old pictures that no one knows who or where they were taken. This one looks very familiar and there may be a copy of it. I am printing this one off and hopefully it will be good enough that I can get my magnifying glass and see if I can find my grandfather. If it does not print clear, can you mail me a copy of it, or did you just get it over the computer. I would love to get more info on the starting of Hobart and hopefully will get back there this summer and do some researching on this. If I do, I will let you know in advance in case there is anything you would like checked out while I am there."
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"Butch, Tell your reader, that there is a leather shop in Lone Grove, called Lone Grove Boot and Saddle, Susan and Randy Watterson 580-657-2802, do great work, they custom made a T-bag for our motorcycle, and it's beautiful, they are good folks and can do just about anything you want, they do quite a bit of work for us bikers. Hope this helps."
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"Randolph's saddle shop is now B & C Saddle shop and it is only open in the mornings now, to 12 noon. If he cant get it done there he can go to Cowboy Way on the other side of Dickson about 1 mile the other side on the right and he may get it done there. "
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"Butch, Randolph Saddle Shop is open only in the mornings. I had him make a belt for Ed last year. He usually closes around 12:30 or 1:00, Monday through Friday."
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"Butch. Someone asked in tonight's issue if anyone in the area makes custom leather gun holsters. I'm not sure, but the Circle C Boot Shop in Ardmore does a lot of leather work. Might check with them. My brother Harold Caudle is the owner operator."
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"Dear Butch, On the corner of S. Commerce & Myall Streets (I think this is where the old Randolph's Saddle Shop used to be located) there is a business called B and C Saddle Shop. It is owned by Bud Stewart. He makes wonderful saddles, chaps and many other leather goods. He might be able to make a gun holster for the person who wrote in asking you about such a place. He is only open from about 8 AM to around l:30 or 2:00 P.M. It would be well worth a person's time to check it out. I hear that people come from all over the US to have him make saddles and other things for them.. He and his wife are nice Christian people and I know them personally. "
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"Dear Butch, Just to answer one of the questions someone wrote about Capt Boyd, he and his wife are both deceased. She was selling cook books during our first reunion with drawings of some of his work. Do not know any more info."
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"You know, looking at this picture... well, it is hard to believe that there was so many people in Ardmore at this time frame... and down town.. wish that they had not invented strip malls." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/fedler2.jpg
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"Butch, just thought you might like to have a photo of the side of Overbrook, Okla. that most people don't see. About a mile south of the Overbrook Road railroad crossing, down in the "boonies", is this sign by the tracks. On Feb. 25, 2001 I shot Oklahoma's Heartland Flyer blasting past the sign and a waiting freight train on the siding track to the left. Sorry folks, no stops here!!" Dwane stevens@ardmore.com http://www.brightok.net/cartercounty/photos/overflyr.jpg
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"Finally got them. Think part of the problem was Netscape. So I went to IE. The pictures just don't do the fire justice. I spent a couple of hours or so watching it. The immediate rumors said that it started in the peanut mill near the underpass got on a conveyor belt so it spread rapidly at the outset. Then driven by a good? breeze it progressed northward pausing briefly at a firewall in the cotton warehouses. I remember that the heat was so intense that it lifted pieces of corrugated sheet iron into the air like leaves. When they passed beyond the heat they dropped to the ground, a few farther north than Broadway." http://www.brightok.net/cartercounty/photos/ginfire6.jpg
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"hi butch i am glad you spoke of cecil button. i remember him when i was growing up. he lived around from me. i used to see him at Moore's grocery. i think him and mr moore where brother inlaw's. he was a very nice man. thanks for bringing back memories"
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"Butch, I saw a reference to the Ardmore company in your newsletter. Would you happen to have any information on the company?"
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"Butch attached are pictures of what used to be the town of Aylesworth in Marshall County. Now it is cover by Lake Texoma (Where the Oil Derricks are in the water). Just up the road from Aylesworth is a small cemetary that has the sign of Aylesworth Cemetary. But all during growing up I had been told that the cemetary was moved to the south end of TimberHill Road just to the North of Bridgeview Resort. I wonder which cemetary is which and who is John Simmons."
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"Butch here is a picture of the Grantham Church and the old Grantham School house back when there were lots of country school houses. Grantham Church still has church services there. It's just off of 199 East of Madill about 3 1/2 miles out. My Dad and his father used to go to school there back in the early 1900's. I remember they used to have a rope in the corner of the foyer that went into the ceiling and it used to ring a bell. I guess there is still a bell in the top of the church. But you can't see it. Maybe you can come to church there and ask if they will let you ring their bell or crawl up in the attic and look at it!" http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/granth2.jpg
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"Butch, Pruittville, east of Madill has a new Sign. The old one was knocked down about 2 months ago in an accident. You've been to Pruittville before back about 8 years ago. Wonder if any of your readers might have any information on the old community of Kinlock before it was known as Pruittville? Or any pictures? My family used to have a Dairy down there back in the mid 1900's." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/pruittv2.jpg
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"Hello Butch, I ran across this old bell while looking for a site to run my metal locator. The Bell is located about 5 miles south of Wilson at the intersection of HYW 76 and County Line Road and is part of a memorial to the Post Oak School that once stood there. All that is left now is a side walk, the foundation of the old school, a water well and two cellars, one of which belonged to the teacherage. The school is located just across County Line Road which puts it in Love County. I love to photograph and document old schools. I have located French School, Cisco School, Whitebead School, Florence Chapel School and several others which I haven't got to document yet." Charles Smith wcsmith@brightok.net
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"Hey Butch how about this strange looking pumpjack that one of your readers emailed to me. It doesn't have a gear box. I wouldn't want to have to buy all of those belts for this one." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/pumpj2.jpg
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"Here is the info on the clock at Park Cities Baptist Church on NW Hwy in Dallas: I have someone checking about the age of the clock and what company made it. It was given by Mr. Virgil Howard in memory of his father-pastor and his brother. "Night Cometh" was inscribed at the request of Dr. Herbert Howard, the second pastor of the church, I believe. It is taken from John 9:4: "I must work the works of him that sent me, while it is day; the night cometh, when no man can work." I believe this would date the clock back to 1956." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/pickchur.jpg
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"I would suspect that the reference on the Dallas church to "Night cometh" is an effort to convey the same message of a church song "Work for the night is coming" and it points out that we do not know how much time there is to be busy in His service, so work!"
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"Good morning Butch, Thought you a/o your neat subscribers might be interested in some random wanderings from the good ol' days. As a kid, about 1938/39, a huge circus type tent was erected in Sulphur, on the west side of Rock Creek near the old cotton gin. For the first few days they held a real old-time Hallelujah Revival , then they put down a hardwood roller skating rink for several days, and guys and gals came from all around . It was great. But it wasn't over yet. Then Willard the Wizard put on an amazing magic show for several days. Our next door neighbor, a widow with two children, ran away with Willard, and hopefully lived happily ever after. But the absolutely best part came next. Bob Wills and his Texas Playboys came to town, I believe for only one Saturday night, and it was maybe the greatest party Sulphur ever had. I was only about twelve years old, but I became a lifelong fan of Bob Wills, and wore out several pair of shoes dancing to his music later as an adult. (Actually, I never did really grow up)! But they really made good use of that tent for awhile, and then Sulphur went back to just a quite , but great place to grow up.The older I get, the better it used to be!!!!"
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"Butch, in regard to whoever wanted leatherwork done. Bud Stewart bought the old Randolph Saddle Shop (on South Commerce) and it is now called B&C Saddle Shop. It still has all the old pictures that Mr. Randolph had, all the old equipment and even the old heater and chairs. Bud can repair most anything. He even made some motorcycle leg covers for a movie that was partly shot here. He has had it open for a long time, at least 15 or 20 years. He has made boots and a few saddles. Go by and see him. He has a sort of "spit and whittle club " sometimes. I am his sister, we went to the old Mary Niblack school and then to Springdale school when we were little. We used to have a hay ride about once a year. Enoch Watterson and his family would get a team of horses and load up the wagon with hay and drive up and down the country roads picking up kids for a "play party" at their house. There was so many of them that a few dozen more didnt make any difference. I really enjoy reading your newsletter. Keep it coming."
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Last Saturday afternoon I decided to travel back over into the NE part of Ardmore where my stomping grounds are located. I went by the lumber yard and continued on north up "H" street NE. When I got to the stop sign at "H" and 5th, I stopped, and because 5th is on curve there back east, I had to nudge out a little. Something told me to stop, and in the corner of my eye I saw something yellow. A powerful motorcycle was going west at a fast clip, and because he thought I was not going to see him and pull on out, he laid his motorcycle down and slide 80 or 90 feet, passing right in front of me. So much can happen in two seconds. I got out to go see how the guy was, and he was up and walking toward me to see if I was hurt. Of course I wasn't touched. And by a miracle he was not hurt, only shook up. People started coming out from everywhere, and a lot of them knew me, since I was grew up just two blocks south of that intersection. The cops came, asked me a few questions, and said I could leave since I was not part of the accident. I think the guy on the motorcycle got a ticket for speeding among other violations. At an estimated 70 mph, it was a miracle he wasn't killed.

Its amazing how fast our minds can flash back to things. I thought about my 14 years on the ambulance, and the thousands of vehicle accidents I went to. Sometimes the Grim Reaper seemed so close, I could almost feel his presence. Many times I was the last person that individual saw alive. They'd tell me a phone number and in the rush of things, I'd write it on the palm of my hand. Or give me a name of someone they loved. Or just look into your eyes with this most scared look and say, "Please help me." I'd do everything I knew to do to try and save their life, but sometimes the Grim Reaper wins. I felt so helpless sometimes.

And a strange twist about this whole incident last Saturday, was my cousin, Jerry Carmon, back around 1960 as teenager, was on his motorcycle and hit by a car at the very same intersection. I remember bystanders calling my grandfather Stanley Carmon at the lumber yard, and he and I jumped in the pickup and went to the scene. We took Jerry to the hospital. He broke his leg and had to wear a full leg cast for months.

I am reminded of the story about the farmer who worked all day in the field, he headed back to the house, and when he got near the front door, he saw the Grim Reaper beckoning him inside. The farmer was so scared, he ran away. He decided to spend the night in the barn, and when he approached the barn, there was the Grim Reaper. The Grim Reaper asked, "Why did you run away earlier? I was only wanting to tell you to meet me here at this barn, at this time."

Friends make life worth living, so please be careful and I'll see everyone next Saturday!

Butch Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
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Saturday, March 10, 2001 Vol 5 Issue 203

Boy, I walked into my office last week, and there on my desk was a box of chocolate chip cookies. They were from Dianne Rankin..... sorta of a bribe. haha. She's still got her antenna out for any good ghost stories for her upcoming book. She got some good signals from several of you out there, but she's looking for more! Dianne's Email is rcdotc@brightok.net What I'd like to see is several of us who "know" something about reported ghosts and the like in Oklahoma, to get together at Dianne's house in the Arbuckle mountains for supper and discuss it all. Dianne has gave an invitation to supper. So, let me or Dianne hear from you if your interested. She said a weekend "meeting of the minds" would be the best time!

This week I went to the Oklahoma Tax Commission's Website and filled out my 2000 Tax Return using their free Online option. As last year, it worked great, and since I had my ID and password from last year, all my info from last year's return was transferred to my 2000 Return. All I had to do was basically enter the new amounts. And as last year, I opted for the electronic transfer to my checking account for my Refund! Pretty neat, and its all free for Oklahomans! http://www.oktax.state.ok.us/

About 12 miles NE of Perry, Oklahoma in Noble county is the small town of Sumner. There in front of the Sumner Rural Fire Department is the bell from the old Sumner School. Beautiful. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/sumner.jpg

Cornish, Oklahoma is 30 miles west of Ardmore, next door to Ringling, Oklahoma. Here's a pic of the old Cornish school. Boy, I sure liked that belfry! http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/cornsch.jpg

And this photo shows part of that old Cornish Orphanage we talked about last week. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/cornorpg.jpg

Last week I talked about my grandfather building the Methodist church in Hobart, Oklahoma. Here's a pic of Hobart in 1901 when it was only a twinkle in someone's eye. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/hobart2.jpg

Here's a pic of downtown Dougherty, Oklahoma up in the Arbuckle Mountains in 1998. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/dherty.jpg

In Edmond, Oklahoma is the old North Tower and bell at the University of Central Oklahoma. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/oldnorth.jpg

Just a few miles on up the road north from Edmond is Guthrie, Oklahoma. Here's a pic of the bell that used to call children to classes at the old Central School in Guthrie. Again, beautiful. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/guthbell.jpg

I found a pretty neat place to find some Freeware utilities. If you have a network with one computer on the internet, they have a free program (called a proxy server) that lets you give internet to all the other computers on the network through that one computer. Also they have a little program to stop that nasty hole in Windows that allows hackers to monitor every piece of information in and out of your computer when your on the Net. And they have some neat "music" programs if your into that stuff too. Check it all out at.... http://www.analogx.com/

Hardly a day goes by that someone doesn't send me email that is part of the email hoaxes going around the world on a daily. Some of the emails I get are viruses, but my virus checker catches them. I hope you are using a virus checker. To learn about email hoaxes (and real ones) before you are part of them..... http://www.vmyths.com/

Back in the early 1980s we had a snow fall in the Ardmore area. I probably shouldn't have even been on the streets, but decided to go to the old Safeway Supermarket (now Homeland) on North Commerce and pick up some things. When I left the store, an elderly white-haired man was in the parking lot trying to get his car started (He was George Cecil Button 1909-1994). I thought to myself, at his age he shouldn't even be out in this kind of weather. Anyway, I went over to help. I had jumper cables in my car, so I jump-started his dead battery. I closed the hood on his car and went around to the passenger side, he had the door open. He said, "I'm Cecil Button and I own Button's Auto Electric and I want to thank you for helping me. I'm also a Gideon." He opened his glove compartment, and pulled out a little bible. He said, "here son, I want you to have this". I never meet Mr. Button again. But I still have that little Gideon bible. The reason I"m telling this story is because I received an email this week from my long time friend Rome Engle. Rome and I go back a long way, to when I worked on the ambulance in the early 70s and also the sheriffs office, and he worked as a State Game Ranger.

But first a little information so everyone knows who Rome is: Rome was a former Game Ranger or Game Warden from the Southern Oklahoma Area. He retired 2 or 3 years ago from the State job, and is now working almost full time with the Gideons. He lives in Tulsa now, and is currently on a Gideon trip to Kenya, Africa doing what Gideons do, handing out bibles. Lisa is Rome's wife. Now for his email this week....

From: Rome Engle, Nairobi Serena Hotel
To: 'RomeLisa@brightok.net'
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"Hi Lisa, Just a note to tell you about my first full day of work in the Lord's ministry in Kenya. My partner for the day, Brad Wilson, of the great state of Oregon, and I went to 12 grade schools today. We placed about 3500 testaments in Swahili and English in those little hands. The children were so well disciplined and mannerly. We would tell them "good morning" and they would in unison say "good morning, sirs." The smiles were from ear to ear, and the eyes were bright and sparkling. We cried all day long. We saw children with cleft palates, cancers on their faces... our hearts broke all day long, not only with the sick and halt and maimed, but with the happy faces. Every school wanted to sing for us. The sound of those lovely voices singing to us will be with me for the rest of my life. Sell the house, buy some tickets and let's get on with this... Gotta go, forward this letter to everyone you think will be interested in it. I love you, Pray for us........Rome."

Carter County Commissioner Kevin Robinson went over the hill last week. The girls at the commissioners office fixed up the area with banners and balloons, and we had some delicious taco soup at noon in celebration of his birthday. Just wait til he's 50, they'll really fix him up!
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A reader told me about a cotton gin that used to be in operation here in Ardmore up until around 1951 on South Washington. The reader said his dad used to take him there when they sold their crops. I did some checking and found out the gin was located right across the street west from the Honda Shop in the 500 block of South Washington. It was called the Murphey Milling and Feed Company, owned by John L. Murphey (1890-1950) and his wife Maude (1892-1976. Mr and Mrs Murphey lived next door to the mill at 515 South Washington. The mill manager was W.E Buchanan, the assistant manager John McGraw, and Coley Wallace was the secretary/treasurer. The mill was originally called the Choctaw Cotton Mill starting in 1918 and ran by John Murphey all through the years until the name was changed to Murphey Milling and Feed about 1949. Murphey Milling was sold to Comet Feed Mills about 1957. I wonder if anyone has a photo of this mill?

If you're looking for some southern Oklahoma history, a good place to start is the Greater Southwest Historical Museum here in Ardmore. It's located at #35 Sunset Drive and the zipcode is 73401. The phone number to the museum is 580-226-1247 and Fax is 580-226-3857. Plus they are on the world wide web at http://home.swbell.net/bhamm10/

A reader asked me this week where he could get a leather holster made for a pistol he owns. We used to have a place on South Commerce called Randolph's Saddle shop where something like that could be made from scratch, but its closed down. Does anyone know a place in southern Oklahoma that still makes custom leather holsters?

Every now and then I get a snail mail letter... through the good old-fashioned post office. This week a letter arrived from Indiana, and it nearly knocked my socks off. Inside were some good old-fashioned photos, the ones like you hold in your hand. When you click on the two photos below you will see it is an Ardmoreite from 1944. But look at photo "b" closely, there is a major mistake in this 1944 newspaper. If you figure it out, send me email. I'll tell more next week.
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SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK'S MAILBAG

"Butch. I don't know if this will help or not as the bell can't be seen in the picture. I can climb the stairs to the choir loft, but I can't make myself go up the ladder to through the door into the belfry. Right now the belfry door is closed. If it were open, perhaps I could get a decent picture of it... This is Saint Mary's Catholic Church in Guthrie, Oklahoma. This building was constructed in 1920, but the bell was transferred from the original church which was built in October of 1889. We still ring the bell every Sunday before the 10:30 a.m. service. We used to ring it during the Midnight Easter Mass, but a neighbor complained. So that is no longer done." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/guthchu.jpg
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"Hi Butch, I left some things out of the Drip Gas story. The production of the Drip from oil required a piece of equipment called a "Heater Treater". Its function was to heat the oil, causing the water to fall out of the oil. The vapor off the heated oil condensed back into gasoline as it cooled, and was captured in the barrel. The gas to fire the fire the heater was usually captured from the wells themselves. The gasoline produced by the cross country pipeline was commonly called "Casing Head Gas". The gasoline off the heater was called "Drip" because it dripped into the capture barrel, out of the line coming from the heater, as it cooled from vapor into gasoline."
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"Hey Butch, I was going through the intersection heading to Bluebonnet when the wall fell. I heard it and saw it on my rear view mirror. needless to say I was a little scared. I was like 2 second away from it." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/mainwall.jpg
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"How much will the cds be Butch I would like to get a copy. Thanks keep up the great work."
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"Hello Butch. If you make any cd's of your pix, please burn one for me. I will be glad to pay you whatever it costs. Always enjoy your news letter and the photos. Great Job! See you in May."
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"Saw where one of your readers was asking about a picture of Madill OK, hope this will do."
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"Hi Butch, I certainly enjoy reading and re-reading all of your columns. Keep up the good work. I do have a question for any of your readers. I am interested in finding out about any old Wild West Shows that may have been around Wilson, OK and Ardmore. I have heard a few stories that a William Daniel of Reck, OK, may have had one. If so, he was a relative of mine. If any of your readers know anything about these shows or if anyone may have a picture, I would sure be interested in hearing or looking. Thanks again for all of your efforts, Del Daniel in Southern California where it is cold and getting ready to rain again." delbertd@ix.netcom.com
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"Dear Butch: Tribbey, Oklahoma was named after Walter Tribbey's family, and he was born there, I understand. Walter was owner of Tribbey Drug Store, first in Wirt, and then in Healdton. He was also a county commissioner at one time. He was a neighbor of mine for a number of years, both Walter and his wife Ollie are deceased."
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"Hi Butch, I can't tell you how much I enjoy T&T. It keeps me informed about home and brings back many memories. I was raised in Ardmore and lived at 814 A st. N.E for most of my youth. I left Ardmore for the Air Force in 1954 and have not lived there since, but still call it home. You may already know that "Caddo" street is nothing more than the first 3 blocks of A st. My Grandpa Garnand lived on the east side of Caddo st. across from the Martin & Fedler building. He made knives, saws and sharpen all kinds of tools, so I spent a lot of time on Caddo until his death in 1953. Several weeks ago you had a picture and comment about the large mound of earth on the east side of I-35 on the old Navy Base at Norman Okla. Someone said it was part of an artillery range. That was not quite right. It was the backstop (bullet catch) to the rifle and pistol range. The mound is only about half of what it was before they put I-35 in. Keep up the great work you are doing with T&T. THANKS!" http://members.nbci.com/oklahomapast/glimpse/normhill.jpg
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"Hi Butch~~I am a new subscriber to This and That and enjoyed my first letter very much. I was born and raised in Ardmore, born in l940 and my maiden name was Lamb. My grandfather, W.G. Lamb and my dad, Don Lamb owned grocery stores there in Ardmore. The first one was on the corner of "E" street SE and Lake Murray Drive and I have many wonderful memories of that store, it's customers, and the neighborhood. The other grocery store was at the corner of l2th and E. NW. If you have any memories or facts about the Lamb men or the grocery stores, I would love to hear them. My aunt was Marynette Parker who lived on the corner of Carter Ave. and Lake Murray Drive. She played the organ at Emmanuel Baptist Church forever."
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"Butch I sure enjoy your info every Sat. I need some Climbing Okra Seed, surely some one has some." llgmckay@brightok.net
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"the first bakery was on 3rd ne next to JOHN SMALLS house. charles bailey worked for him and lived across the street was when i was a small boy. i played there and ate that hot bread right out of the oven."
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"Butch, this may have been before your time but John Small's bakery was originally on 3rd NE right next to his home there. Later it was moved to the corner of H and 2nd. This means of course that I am older than you but I remember it well."
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"And the smell of that baking "Buttercrust" bread at John Small's Bakery on Ardmore's N.E. 3rd Street is still fresh upon my palate even 70 years later."
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"I remember walking down Caddo as a kid looking in all the domino parlors for my Grandpa Prater when it was time for him to come home for dinner. He lived about two blocks down on the right in one of the little wooden houses just north of the salvage yard on the east side of Caddo."

"Talk about fond memories, just walking by the fresh produce stands on the way to find my Grandpa was a treat for us kids as all the vendors knew who we were and that times were still bad for a lot of the people there in Ardmore and every once in a while we would get a little something for free. Thanks for the memories."
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"Butch Bridges forwarded your letter to me and asked me to answer your question. Well, certainly I'm no expert but I am an observer. I noticed a crack in the side of the old building several weeks ago and started taking pictures of the building. The crack gradually became noticeably wider. The authorities at the police Department were notified, but there was nothing done to guard against the possibility of the wall falling on someone - thankfully no one was hurt. The building is very old & completely unoccupied but after the sand stone wall fell, it appeared that the roof had been leaking for quite some time. I too will be interested to know what the inspectors come up with for an answer as to "why the wall fell."
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"...this is the building located on the NW corner of Main and Caddo Streets of Ardmore. As you know, this is one of the oldest buildings on main street & is the site of the first hospital and sanitarium established by Dr. Walter Hardy. The lower floor, on the corner, was purportedly occupied by a Drug store throughout the buildings history. The building took a devastating blow from the 1915 explosion of the train load of casing head gasoline located at the rail road tracks, less than a block east of its location. The pharmacist & proprietor who was leasing the building for a Drug Store at the time of the explosion was a Mr.Adcock. Mr. Adcock told me that when the explosion occurred, it caused all of his wall fixtures to fall face down on the floor. This old building has a basement, and it is commonly referred to as the location of the Dew Drop Inn. Photographs of the building ,which were taken at the time, do not reveal a great deal of damage to the upper portion of the outside east wall of the building; however the upper east wall was also faced with large sand stone building blocks, but later, that portion of the building was replaced with brick. If you view the west wall of the old building you can see that the original sand stone wall still surrounds the upper portion of the building. I am sending you several attachments of pictures, taken today, that demonstrate a structural breakdown of the building some 85 years after the notoriously devastating damage caused by the explosion in 1915. The old building presently is unoccupied but probably should be inspected to determine if it is near falling in. I know the old building pretty well and many of the stories you hear today are believed as fact, but I know many of the tales are legend instead of fact."
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"8 ounce prescription bottle dates back to early 1940's. Drug Store was located on corner of Caddo & Main Streets under name of Martin & Fedler Drug Store, but became the "Martin Drug Store" in 1946 until 1968. Building is now vacant." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/fedler.jpg
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"I believe I was on that plane on April 21, 1966 (crashed April 22, 1966). We were drafted and left LAX late that afternoon. They had some type of problem and we had to wait what seemed like several hours till it was ready. They took us to Fort Bliss, Texas. If you would like any more information please feel free to contact me." http://www.gollihugh.com/
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"Hi Butch, We're still enjoying your newsletter out here in Nevada. It's always good to read about the old hometown. I noticed someone mentioned the Raleigh Salve you use to be able to buy. Does anyone out there remember selling Cloverine Salve from door to door? That was back in the thirties and if you sold enough, you got a reward for it in the form of various items you could get from their catalog. Those were the days! A kid could walk his legs off, going up and down those country roads to sell salve to those good country people. Someone usually obliged you with the few cents it took to buy the salve. As I remember, it was pretty good for skinned knees and stubbed toes! Ah, memories! Thanks again for your newsletter. We do enjoy it."
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"I have several etchings by Phleat Boyd of Ardmore that I purchased 20 years ago. I just now decided to do a research on him and the primary reference on the internet was in regard to the American Flyers accident of 1966. Since the drawings are dated 1977-1980, he obviously wasn't one of the victims. Can you enlighten me as to who he is and how he is connected to the accident? Do you know where he lives or is he deceased? Thanks for any help you can provide." Charles Fredrick cwfred@ipa.net
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"This picture from the McGalliard Collection shows the building at Caddo and Main Streets before the sandstone to brick changes to the front and east sides of the building. The autos indicate the picture date to be in the 1915-1920 era (I'm guessing)." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/fedler2.jpg
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"The church at NW highway and Pickwick Lane in Dallas is Park Cities Baptist Church. I don't know the story behind "Night Cometh" on the clock face. I go to church there and I'll see what I can find out." http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/pickchur.jpg
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"Hi Butch, I have gathered some information that I hope will help the person trying to solve the Mena Walters mystery. In the 1920-21 and 1922 Houston City Directories I found a listing for Meda Walters (widow of Chas) living on Crockett street NW corner of Egypt (Ryan add). Yes, her name is listed as Meda in both books. Crockett street (Ryan add) runs from Grand ave N to Bartholomew and is a continuation of Chapman street. Egypt street (Ryan add) runs from Robertson E to H B & T (this refers to Houston Belt & Terminal) 9 blocks n of Hays street. In the 1922 and 1923-24 Houston City Directories there is a listing for Mrs Annie Seligman living on Chapman street SW cor of Egypt street. Perhaps this neighbor was the informant on the death certificate. I did a very quick check of the soundex for the 1920 TX census and did not find Charles and/or Meda Walters. In the 1910 Pawnee Co, OK census, there is a Charles Walters age 45 born in IL, his wife, Almeda, age 41 born in MO, and daughter, Myrtle, age 10 born in OK."
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Dear Mr. Bridges, My Grandfather, Felix Roberts, was born May 8, 1888. According to the information he related to our family, the old cemetery was were Main street divided. My Grandfather was born in Indian Territory and played with the outlaws in the Caves by Turner Falls. He was friends with "Wobblin' Willy".
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The best vitamin for a friend...... B1

See everyone next Saturday!

Butch Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
PO Box 11
Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402

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Saturday, March 3, 2001 Vol 5 Issue 202

A piece of history fell in Ardmore this week. The east wall of the old Martin and Fedler Drug Store at Main and Caddo came tumbling down. My friend Ernest Martin snapped this picture of it just a couple of hours after the wall fell. This all happened about noon on Friday March 3rd. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/mainwall.jpg

A couple weeks ago I spoke about the Wishing Well in Cornish, Oklahoma. Its located right on Main Street, probably since around 1900, maybe before. Cornish was established February 22, 1899. The townspeople had to fill the well in with dirt/sand some years back, because kids were throwing dogs and cats in the well. Shame we can't have a piece of history without pranksters. Since that write-up I've learned the real Mayor of Cornish has invited me out to see him.... I'm going to make that trip when the weather clears up. I've also been told a movement is underway to get a sign put up saying, "Welcome To Cornish, Oklahoma". I hope so. I know I will make a donation to help pay for the sign, if needed. Here is a pic of the Wishing Well as it is today. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/cornwell.jpg

And here is a pic of that same Wishing Well at Cornish back in 1960. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/cornwel2.jpg

I was traveling to Lone Grove this week, and I think I saw another bell, on the north side of Highway 70 at a house, just before reaching Meridian Road intersection. I'll make another trip out there soon and take my digital camera!

And speaking of bells, I found two in Springer, Oklahoma last Saturday. This one was near the south end of Butler Street. They had another just like it in the back yard. You can see the bell behind that big black wash pot, one like my great grandmother Ida Miller made lye soap in when she lived across the street east from Washington Elementary school. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/springpo.jpg

I've learned there is a bell in the belfry of the Springer, Oklahoma First Methodist Church too.... they ring it every Sunday morning! Got to see if I can get a pic of that one too! http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/springch.jpg

Ever heard of Tribbey, Oklahoma? Tribbey is about 20 miles SW of Shawnee, Oklahoma in SW Pottawatomie county. And they have this beautiful bell. This is a 1999 photo a friend took for me. He hasn't taken a picture of a bell for me lately, I may have to hold up his check this month. hahaha. I'm going to ring that bell in Tribbey someday! http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/tribbey.jpg

A reader wrote in last week about the old Colvert homeplace on 12th NW behind Mt View Mall. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/colvhse.jpg

About 2 or 3 weeks ago, Ardmore was invaded by birds, namely grackles. They invade each year by the thousands. When its bad, the City of Ardmore puts out "cannons" to scare them off, or at least try to scare them away. These cannon blasts started in my part of town at 6:30pm Saturday night the 24th. Boy, every few seconds that cannon when off, and is it loud! And this has been going on, every evening, all week.
http://www.bartleby.com/65/gr/grackle.html
http://www.kwic.com/~pagodavista/grackle.htm

I knew my Grandfather Stanley Carmon built the Stanley Building in Hobart, Oklahoma around 1930. It was not named after my grandfather, but it was called the Stanley Furniture Store in Hobart. What I didn't know until this week was he built the Methodist church in Hobart too, around 1926 or 1927. I received this information from my cousin, Bobbye Gay, in Houston. Guess I"m going to have to travel to Hobart soon, and take come pics.

A reader wrote in this week asking about the old Small's Bakery of years ago here in Ardmore. What he didn't know was my grandfather also built that building, at the corner of "H" NE and 2nd. I can still see Mr. John Small walking from his home at 816 3rd NE to the bakery around 6:30am back in the 60s. He whistled his way to work. Boy could he whistle.

I was looking through my stuff the other day and found a unique little wooden vial. It is a sewing machine needle holder made by Singer Company. The handwritten date on it is 1925. Its even got some neat looking needles in it! This has got to be a collectors's piece! I can't even remember where it came from, except from my teenage years.
http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/singer3.jpg

A couple years ago I found three VHS movies (in Canada) of Dillinger (1973) in which many southern Oklahoma places were filmed including the Carter county courthouse. Blockbuster.com has the movie on DVD at $14.99 each. This week I found that hard-to-find movie on VSH again at... http://www.moviesunlimited.com for $12.34 each.

I been re-organizing my pictures. I have about 1,500 jpg files that go with my T&T issues since I started. When I have them in order, I may burn some CDs if anyone wants one. I"ll just ask for enough to cover my expenses to produce/ship them.

SOME LETTERS FROM THIS WEEK'S MAILBAG

"Someone asked about a list of Vietnam Veterans. There's a great web site www.thevirtualwall.org which allows you to move along the wall and see the names. You can click on a name and learn about that individual. My internet connect here at home is so slow, I haven't spent much time on it. A student found the site during a recent class on internet searches."
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"Someone mentioned the old water wheel near Falls Creek. It is located at Price's Falls (also called Oddfellows Camp) just outside the entrance of Falls Creek. The Baptist camp has purchased that property and will build a lodge there. I don't know if they have plans to remove the wheel, but I'm sure hoping they keep it!"

"Some additional info to my last email.... My mom says they are also going to use the old Oddfellow's Camp as RV parking for the folks at Falls Creek."
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"We really enjoy your This and That every week, and I have passed it on to several friends. The Springer Methodist Church has a bell and ring it every Sunday morning before 9:00 services. Also, several weeks you were talking about photography studios in Ardmore, but no one mentioned the Fonville brothers. Howard Fonville had a studio about where John Williams studio is now on the south side of main street and Pete Fonville's was located on the north side of main street near the old Ritz theater. Keep up the good work."
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"Hi Butch: The person seeking information on A. D. Wilkinson, printer and writer, might be interested to know: the subject was a man due some respect for his intrepidness. I did not know A. D. Wilkinson but was acquainted with his daughter Gwen Simmons (an accomplished poet), now deceased. He has a granddaughter (Carolyn Simmons) who lived in Oklahoma City at last report and a grandson (Milton Simmons) in Arizona (Tucson, I think). If last week's enquirer remains interested, their address might be accessed in the white pages. Mr. Wilkinson was a Bible scholar and I have copies of two of his works; in fact, the bibliography in my book, "THE GREAT DECEPTION: Symbols And Numbers Clarified" contains reference to one of his works. Mr. Wilkinson's research was controversial and too far advanced for fundamentalist thinking; therefore, his endeavor caused disfellowshipment from the Central Church of Christ in Ardmore, for his far-reaching dissension with conventional pedagogy. As far as I know, I possess the only copies of his work; to be sure, he was far more scholastic than his contemporaries. Hope this will help. Ben Winter Author of: "THE GREAT DECEPTION: Symbols And Numbers Clarified" Bringing Accountability to Symbols and Numbers Interpretation" http://www.winterbriar.com bnwinter@winterbriar.com
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"I was really excited reading about the drip gas,and looking at those great pictures. I have lived in the oilfield all of my life, and have seen such arrangements, but never had seen the pictures of any of the drip recovery devices. During the depression, I often rode with guys that were running their cars on drip gas. I did not understand how and where they got it, at first, but as your informant said it was powerful and smelly. I remember a good friend that was burned to death when filling his car with drip and it exploded. He was an inveterate smoker, and probably had a cigarette in his mouth. Even with gas at 15 cents a gallon, during the depression a tankful of drip was a big saving. A lot of folks that lived on leases used it. Now for the big question, Butch, are all of the little bottles of liquor, full little bottles? If not you may have a bunch of visitors. I will try to find a suitable miniature for you. Say...I also enjoyed the Russett pictures, will keep them."
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"Butch, I remember the drip gas spoken by one of your readers my older brother was a driller and he told me that you should put mothballs in the tank to kill the smell."
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"In response to the letter concerning Drip Gas, Having grown up in the oilfields in, near, and around Healdton and Velma, I have personally burned many gallon. I used it in several vehicles. but it burned best in a 1947 V-8 ford and a 1952 V-8 Studebaker. There was two sources of supply. One being the device described, and the other being a cross country natural gas pipe line. The change in temperature caused it to condense into the low places in the pipe line and it was retrieved from a valve put there to get rid of it. You would also get some water along with the gas and had to let it settle to bottom before putting it in the car and it still would give trouble. Some of it stunk pretty bad and some of it not so bad, but the price was right."
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"Dear Butch, I would very much like to subscribe to your This and That newsletter. My aunt sent me a copy of it and I enjoyed it very much. Also, I am searching for my family who lived in Indian Territory around Tishomingo I believe. Their names were Ken and Sarah Isabel Cox Gregg. Their children's names were Eva, John, William, Edna, Gether and Myrtle. I believe they lived in this area between the years 1883 and 1893. Any assistance would be appreciated. Thank you." Carol Mattison Carickmatt@aol.com
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"Butch, These are pictures of a Church Steeple in Dallas at the intersection of NorthWest Highway and Pickwick Lane. I'm not for sure on the name of the church. The face of the clock says "night cometh" I wonder what's the story is behind that? Just look at all of those bells packed into that thing and the clock too. What a Butch Bridges wonder packed all into one!" http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/pickchur.jpg
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"You continue to amaze your cousin with the history you come up with from week to week. Great job. I failed to mention that the rock above the door in the house I grew up in is the shape of a heart (naturally - no mason work ever done on the rock other than to smooth the edges). Let's go back in time in Ardmore and see if anyone remembers Small's Bakery in the northeast part of town. Best as I can remember it was a little bakery made of rock and was on the left as you drove towards the cemetary. I do remember that their goods were always fresh and very yummy for the tummy as I was only about 2 or 3 at the time."
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Butch, In "This and That" someone mentioned listing casualties of the Vietnam War. There is a searchable database of US Casualties of the Vietnam War available at http://www.mastermind.net. Keep up the good work!!
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"Hi again, oh that disease has hit here right at home, only 2 miles down the road, its so sad we watch farmers killing off their 1,500 stock. being mainly sheep and pigs its such a shame .... oh I dont like it. Where I live there is a lot of countryside around, and we can't go anywhere, all the footpaths, have been closed off, its a strange sight to see ..... but has to be done I suppose. Our supermarkets are beginning to run low on meats being fresh or frozen, which they said would not happen, with everyone panic buying, if worse comes to worse, then I will have to become a healthy vegetarian ( I dont think so !! ) ha ha." --England
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"My Aunt has asked me to search the web for "Raleigh Salve", I see one of your readers in the April, May, June 2000, "This &That" issues was also. Did anyone find the salve for them? If you did, could you please forward the information to me?" Shellygirl@snet.net
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"I finally got all my STUFF compiled and made a big update to my Carter County genealogy site! Go see it and tell me what you think!" http://www.geocities.com/juliealleman
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"Butch, really enjoy your articles. Have you ever had anything on the old Mary Niblack School? I went there back in l938 and 39 and have a picture of the children and their teachers in l939. Would like to see information on this, if you have it."
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"hi butch, my grandpa elmer criswell was born in madill, okla dec 1900, then in 5 month his family moved to sayre, okla by train, his brother went by a wagon train because he want to keep his horse. any pictures of madill, okla in 1900?"
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"Dear Mr. Bridges, I have spent much of the past hour enjoying your Bells of Oklahoma website. What a project! In December '99, the bell from the defunct Asher, Oklahoma Methodist Church (now owned by Bob and Erma Brockett) was shipped to our home in California. Since that time we have been trying to research its age and origin. By going through your photographs, we think that the bell beside the First Baptist Church in Grandfield looks just like ours, a 24" x 32", very likely a CS Bell Co. product. But, we have no way of finding out for sure. Can you help us? Would you like a photograph of the bell in our garden? It is, after all, an Oklahoma bell!"
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"With malice toward none, with charity for all, with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right, let us strive on to finish the work we are in; to bind up the nation's wounds; to care for him who shall have borne the battle, and for his widow and his orphan - to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace, among ourselves, and with all nations." --Abraham Lincoln

See everyone next Saturday!

Butch Bridges
Nashobish Ikana
PO Box 11
Ardmore, Oklahoma 73402

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Saturday, February 24, 2001 Vol 5 Issue 201

I travelled over to the Blue River Hunting and Fishing Resort five miles north of Tishomingo, Oklahoma last Saturday. Tish is 30 miles east of Ardmore. Blue River was cresting that day from all the previous days of rain. There were people even trying to catch fish in the rushing river. Here's a couple pics. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/blueriv2.jpg http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/blueriv3.jpg

On the way over to Tish I went through Paula Stout's stomping grounds, Russett, Oklahoma. The first thing I noticed in Russett was an outhouse behind this old house. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/russout.jpg

The house and property is located at Highway 1 and Pettijohn Camp Road in Russett. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/russout2.jpg

There is not many buildings left in Russett, but they do have a church. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/russchur.jpg And a unique old house and property still standing. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/russold3.jpg

But the best piece of history I found was in Mannsville, Oklahoma. Mannsville is about 15 miles east of Ardmore on Highway 199. The First Methodist Church there has a beautiful bell!!! http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/mannmeth.jpg

Last week I talked about Mr. Basil Moran and his grocery store on 6th NE across the street north from the old Washington Elementary school back in the 50s. Mr and Mrs Moran called me this week to say they had received many lovely calls and letters because of the article. What I failed to mention in my article was the man in the photo is Basil Moran. http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/moran2.jpg

I have been trying this week to find a relative and hopefully a photo, of Mr. A.D. Wilkinson (1883 - 1973). Back in the 60s Mr. Wilkinson lived at 812 Carter SE here in Ardmore. But he also ran a printing shop adjacent to Hunts Grocery (west side) at 726 3rd NE. I can remember so well watching Mr Wilkinson, who was in his 80s, placing sheet after sheet of paper n the press, as his huge printing machine roller went across that flat inked surface, just before the roller went across the type.

Speaking of Mr. Wilkinson, I looked in my garage and found an old printer's tray that came from his shop back in the early 60s. It is a true antique, so I got it out, but a couple of hangers on the back and hung it on my front room wall, and turned it into a shawdow box. Across the top I even lined it with all these little bottles of liquor that a friend of mine has given me over the years, with each trip they make to Las Vegas. Makes for an interesting conversation piece! http://members.nbci.com/_XOOM/OklahomaPast/photos/ptray.jpg

Now to get those little squares filled with miniatures. If you have any little miniature or unsual thing that would fit in the shawdow